we have a fantastic team but 4 million kiwis, including myself, are really hoping that richard mccall that team. >> is he being cited? >> we have this competitive rivalry between the two countries. we admire and like each other. >> we like each other hugely. i think really it's the english that pretend we don't but we do like it. we like each other a great deal. we've managed this very well, haven't we. >> what is amazing, i have to say, is that you are clearly a passionate rugby spoiler. my great friend and ally karen doesn't give a damn about rugby. did you see the action? she said, what? she's the only aussie i know that doesn't care. >> i would watch it. the cricket. >> it's close to worry, as modern day worry. if i can watch richie, mano. >> yeah. yeah. yeah. so exciting. >> i hope it's a really good match. they're two phenomenal sides. i really hope we win. >> impartial. >> i know nothing about it. hey, i'll read the story. australia will play close rival new zealand in the final of the rugby world cup after holding off a spirited argentina. three first half tries including two