although there are -- as historian richard meyer tells us, there are only 17 people who showed up to take the photograph for this image. the gay liberation front, which had emerged as a self-proclaimed revolutionary organization after stonewall, had a membership of about 150 people at the time and they only managed to get about 17 to show up to take the picture for this image. there are probably a few other people left out of this image on "the ladder." so the number is not all that different, but we have a different display of them. they are filling the frame more fully in the image for the gay liberation front. they seem, even though there may not be that many more people actually there, they seen to be -- they seem to be a larger number of people. is there anything else that you notice that is similar or different? here in the middle. >> in the reading, it talked about in "the ladder," the woman was wearing a skirt and the men were wearing suits, and they were conforming to gender identity to make it seem like they were with society. and they were not -- that they were at the same