joining me now is charlotte wright from bbc south east in tunbridge wells, and richard moss from bbcight of the issue that are muttering to the people where you are? ~ , ., ~' muttering to the people where you are? ~ , ., ~ ., are? when you think of the south-east _ are? when you think of the south-east of— are? when you think of the south-east of england, - are? when you think of the i south-east of england, think are? when you think of the - south-east of england, think of tory south—east of england, think of tory territory, of the blue wall. it is actually much more nuanced when it comes to councils and our regions, particularly over the last four years and the councils that are up for election this time around. take tanned rage in east surrey, leafy east surrey. the conservatives lost their majority in the council there backin their majority in the council there back in 2019 and what we have seen there is a rise in independent councillors and residents association. 0ne councillors and residents association. one of the big issues there is house—building. it is an area where there