c-span: and what did richard nixon and rockefeller think of each other? >> guest: it's a complex -- they respected each other as rivals. there certainly were any number of occasions when i think each man tried the patience of the other. oddly enough, during the eisenhower administration they'd been allies. they were both in some ways -- well, there's a wonderful letter. rockefeller writes the day after the '56 election nelson writes, oddly enough to richard nixon. and he says thanks to you and the president, the republican party is emerging as the great liberal party of the future. and in light of everything we know since then, that seems an odd thing to say. except in 1956, you know people forget it wasn't barry goldwater that broke the solids out. it was dwight eisenhower. he carried almost 40% of the african-american vote and a majority of southern electors. so because the party turned to goldwater and then in effect on to nixon and reagan and gingrich, because the party took that turn in 1964 doesn't mean that that had to be the history. it could have

the national archives cohosted this event with the richard nixon foundation as part of the nixon legacy forums. it is almost two hours. geoffrey: good morning. i am here to welcome you on behalf of the nixon foundation. which cosponsors these legacy forums with the national archives. it is a wonderful partnership. david is responsible for 12 billion documents. some 43 million pages of wish he left at the nixon library in california. which is his facility. and we have the people who created the documents. if you're old enough to remember warned beatty -- warren beatty in the movie "shampoo," he has the hair and we have the documents. we have done over 30 of these. and i've helped produce of them. since my experience on nixon's staff was on the domestic side and that did not include foreign affairs. we stumbled upon a brilliant and helpful counterpart at it is my pleasure to introduce. that is kt mcfarland. you know kt as a fox analyst. everybody has to start somewhere. kathy troia started as a typist

the national archives cohosted with the richard nixon foundation as part of the nixon legacy forum. it is almost two hours. geoffrey: good morning. i am here to welcome you on behalf of the nixon foundation. it is a wonderful partnership. david is responsible for 12 billion documents. some 43 million pages of wish he left at the nixon library in california. and we have the people who created the documents. if you're old enough to remember warren beatty and "shampoo," he has the hair and we have the documents. we have done over 30 of these. and i've helped produce of them. says my experience on nixon's staff was on the domestic side and that did not include foreign affairs. we stumbled upon a brilliant and helpful counterpart at it is my pleasure to introduce. that is kt mcfarland. you know kt as a fox analyst. everybody has to start somewhere. kathy troia started as a typist on the graveyard shift when she was a sophomore at george washington university. kt: i was a freshman. geoffrey: my facts are wrong. she grew in stature and importance under nixon. under president reagan, she wa

had the opportunity to interview lbj tapes conducted every president interview since lbj from richard nixon through barack obama. bob is the very best in a very competitive business. for disclosure, joe and i are old friends. i've interviewed him many times. i thought that was the best book about lyndon johnson up until that point and he just jumped off of the pages. the things that you put in the book back then you say that we live today in the lyndon johnson's world. why don't you talk a little bit about that? >> in education, 60% of the kids in college on the basis of his work-study grand and long loan programs called pell grants but that is a reauthorization of the original bill we have cited bilingual education and we have 70 different languages now for the bilingual education in the united states of america. for medicaid is about 60 million people in medicare. of course the civil rights bills of 64 and for the discrimination in employment and public accommodations. we had something called the national origins act and that limited largely to the british isles in northern europe. he rep

the richard nixon presidential library conducted this interview. >> tell us when you heard about the break-in. >> i had been in manila giving a speech for a graduation speech for a bunch agents that had been trained by the dea. crossing the dateline is always a body twister. i arrived in san francisco, and feeling just jet-lagged badly. and i called my deputy, and said i'm going to stay in san francisco, rest today, and come back tomorrow. this is on a sunday night. he said, there's been some activities here that you should know about, you should come back. and fred wouldn't say that if it wasn't serious. so i flew back met with fred, who lived down the street from me in old town. and he tells me about the arrest at the dnc. and my reaction immediately is colson has gone crazy again. the next morning, magruder calls me says it's liddy. he said, i can't talk to liddy, you have to talk to him. and i learned from liddy, the same men he used working at the white house doing the ellsberg break-in are sitting in d.c. jail. to this day, i don't think the coverup would have ever gone where i

fidel did not emerge keen on richard nixon and richard nixon emerged not very keen on fidel castro as you can imagine and went on to become one of the true proponents of overthrowing castro. but even so, castro called in the swiss ambassador and sent a message to the nixon administration in its first two weeks in office saying there are things i would like to talk about as henry kissinger wrote to the president, to present to the president this is a gesture of detante. even with ronald reagan, one of the arch cold warriors, fidel castro repeatedly reached out. there were several presidents tried to change relations. john kennedy was the president who was completely tied by the narrative of history to aggression against cuba and authorized operation mongoose and it took place under his watch. he imposed the trade embargo and during the cuban missile crisis he massed forces to completely obliterate cuba if needed. luckily his head and wiser heads prevailed and that didn't happen. after the missile crisis he emerged thinking it might be wiser to take a different approach towards cuba. an

when richard nixon was basically boozed from the white house. >> i interviewed more than 50 people fors book, most of whom had never spoken to a reporter before, and they said watching the decline of nixon was harder than even jfk's assassination. watching his schedule change completely. he used to be in the oval office at complain, and then it would change to 8:00, there's a very humanizing moment with him after he announces his resignation. the head electrician left, walked down the colonnade into the residence, and he heard footsteps, and it was the president. the electrician stepped aside assuming the president would want some privacy, and he turned to him and said, bill, walk with me. the two walked alone for a moment, and the head of electrician said you did the best you could, and the president said, thank you, i wish more people felt that way. the two parted ways on the ground floor of the white house. that to me is a humanizing moment. these people are human beings like everyone else. that's what i set out to do with this book. the staff is incredibly fiercely loyal. >> why di

>> you know richard nixon said one of the big mistakes was in his re-election in 1972 not working harder to keep the challengers out. one on the left and one on the right. they hardly pulled any numbers at all. but it's so troubled and slowed down as campaign, it led to some of the scandals. so it is troublesome to have a challenger. if hillary can get into the general election there's not a lot of time to debate all of the intricacies of these donations to the clinton foundation. but if she gets a challenger right now and some of the issues, economic and foreign are discussed, it can be problem attic and there's time for a journalist to get answers to the questions. neil: assuming they're asking them. [ laughter ] >> which is a big assumption. neil: very big assumption. thank you my friend. >>> george allen says o'malley might be wowing the left but ain't exactly endearing himself to the half of americans who have serious money worries that is with the wave after wave of regulations and laws meant to ease the worries. so governor welcome good to have you back. >> good to be with you, ne

. >> not gerald ford and not richard nixon.y weren't wealthy men when they got in. >> okay. >> jimmy carter wasn't a wealthy man. >> in the modern era, in the modern ear remarks the presidential candidates have been very well off. >> i just gave you three that weren't. but, look, that's not my problem. >> you said richard nixon. >> he wasn't wealthy when he ran for president. he wasn't welgty at all. >> i agree but that's some years ago. >> that was modern times. >> in the era of campaign finance we have now. >> this income inequality team the democratic party has seized upon. you are part of that. because you advised president obama on this. if you get a socialist like elizabeth warren, maybe it could. although she has made a ton of money at the top level too. last word. >> look. may last word is if cutting taxes at the top were a big generator of growth and jack's magic beaten stock then it worked have worked under george bush if they cut it. it doesn't. the economy isn't driven by taxes at the top. >> but it's driven by busi

long as any political figure throughout the 20th century and including franklin roosevelt and richard nixon and loads of other ones. so you have a fixed image after all that time. it's tough to change. and if you try, you better try toward what you really are. i heard the word humble used about in the preface to the announcement. i don't associate humility with either clinton or for that matter with top politicians if either party. that's a tough one to sell. >> that was the 35-year-old new campaign manager who has a clinton world in some matters. and the mem though tho that tal being humble, what did it predict? >> very little of that will happen because the stakes are so high in politics. the real politics are the opposite of academic politics. stakes are high in real poll pick politics and low this cad hick politics 7. >> always good to have your insight. thank you.>> always good to hav insight. thank you. >>> a rish shan jet accused of enter septembering an u.s. airplane. well tell you what happened. i love making sunday dinners. but when my back hurt, cooking all day... forget about it

you've got a story about richard nixon calling them plays to a couple of teams. >> guest: it is so much a part of our culture. basically they are interested in sports. nixon actually was a big fan the extent to which he was a fan of folk all and he was actually devising place where professional college team and spend them in. i'm not aware any of them were very well. a famous play was sentenced to the football team in the cultures you would use them to play from the president and give it a try. nixon fancied himself as an expert on foot tall but his play didn't work very well. >> host: we have been talking with ken walsh senior white house correspondent for u.s. news & world report of "c >> transfer takes a look at 17 international universe is faced by presidents going back to your return and assesses how they were handled. mr. bohn served as the white house situation room under president reagan. non-mac -- [inaudible conversations] can and not welcomed here mark with the mark with malcolm acted in school policy government and international affairs hearing that george which i had the pl

fidel castro meeting the then vice president richard nixon, in 1959. just a year after that that diplomatic relations were broken off, as cuba nationalized all american businesses. fast forward to 1982 and the u.s. then added cuba to its list of state sponsors of terrorism. that was for offering sanctuary to separatist and colombian rebels. now the state department has recommended removing cuba from that list and that would have a huge impact, leading to the opening up of diplomatic and trade relations. a cuban historian and regional expert from the university of michigan. she outlines what each side has to gain. >> the united states will be rid of what has been a thorn at its side for half a century, an item that is only 90 miles away and that lends itself to awe kinds of things you know such as nuclear missiles way back in 1962. and at the same time you know, cuba will also gain a great deal from it with respect to opening its society to trade and commerce with the united states and some influences that are positive coming from this country also. >>

theseeitherof these men have sat down and talked april feants, 15th, 1959, when vice president richard nixon met with the president of cuba. >> the relationship with venezuela is getting worse. what's the back story here? >> you know, technical strange thing about venezuela is, president knicks last nicholas maduro, rely on subsidized oil prices, much in the way that cuba does. he is looking to come and deflect attention inside his own country. the obama administration has lobbed some of theselobbed some of these be sanctions on the top 7 venezuelan officials. the mayor of caracas here is the look at our report. about a year ago, this is what caracas looked like. a deadly mix of molotov cocktails and tear gas consumed the venezuelan capital. in fact, protesters and government forces clashed across the country. as the nation's economic woes in an epidemic of violent crime prompted thousands to take to the streets. in response president nicholas maduro clamped down on dissent. and imprisoned those who were against him. including the mayor of caracas beinging antonio ledez ma. ledezma. grk what

they were both acquitted by the united states senate and richard nixon also would have been impeached. and i would like to know if you know why andrew johnson was impeached. >> guest: toward understanding is the same as mine on why that happened. andrew johnson was a rambling than's vice president who i believe came from tennessee. he was not the kind of commentator and brilliant politician. and so after lincoln was killed and the civil war was one of the johnson had a tremendous fight with congress. he wasn't very adept at this and had problems with appointments and assisting unemployment and the senate, and it was a rather technical issue of his handling of appointment as i remember that caused the impeachment but under that was this tremendous stirring of animosity towards him because of his handling, rather his ham-handed handling of the reconstruction because he was letting the south do things with former slaves battling gimlet and have allowed for all we know and a lot of people felt he was letting the south off too easily so there was a sense of animosity in his handling of the

broke with that system in 1971, when president richard nixon made an announcement would no longer exchange dollars for cold through the official market. >> i am determined that the american dollar must never again be a hostage in the hands of international speculators. >> the u.s. felt others manipulated their currencies. chaos followed. authorities linked the actions. the i.m.f. seemed to lose his purpose. historians say he found one. the i.m.f. counts more than 100 countries as members. they pay quotas into one. the fund lends money to those in crisis. in the 1980s, latin american countries could not repay and turned to the melbourne cupped -- international monetary fund. in 1997 a financial crisis swept asia, and they were turned to. some said the fund made controversy worse. there was dissent among i.m.f. members about whether the i.m.f. should rescue it. >> many thought why is the fund going to the assistance of prosperous european countries when there are countries that are worse off, not having the same kind of access. in the end it gave loans. mary snow, al jazeera >>> it's too ear

inflation became the national concern during the administration of richard nixon.hout too much managing of the economy, we're going to have some fine tuning of our fiscal and monetary affairs in order to control inflation. but inflation continued. the president and his advisers felt something dramatic had to be done. all the economic officials of the government were summoned to camp david on a weekend told not to tell anybody where we were going. our wives were not supposed to know where we were going. a lot of speculation was going on about what we were doing. at least the word did not leak out that we were about to impose a wage and price freeze. the time has come for decisive action, action that will break the vicious circle of spiraling prices and costs. i am ordering a freeze on all prices and wages for a period of 90 days. it was august 1971. inflation had reached what was then considered a staggering 4%. president nixon imposed temporary price controls and they worked temporarily. then, the controls off prices started upwards again. by 1973, there were boyco

level of intimacy that none of the top aides have could talk about the stories you have about richard nixonhave a couple of incredible antidotes. >> specifically one story about him after he announced his resignation from the oval office, there were only a small handful of people allowed into the room. one was the head electrician grade i interviewed him. he told me that after this announcement, president nixon walked out onto the colonnade along the rose garden to go back to his office in the basement of the white house. he heard footsteps behind him. he stepped aside to let president nixon go around him. president nixon said, what with me, bill. they walked for a couple of minutes. bill said you did the best you could. president nixon said that he wished a lot of people felt that way. he had tears in his eyes. the president went up to the second for that is a telling and about that human moment. they did not know the nixon's leaving until pat nixon called asking for packing boxes which is a funny aside. >> incredible. we have a number of employees who are african-americans. how have they

bush, and richard nixon among the rank's of presidents to come -- a terrifying ride. leon: the last place in the world that you want to wake up midflight. an emergency landing. alison: a heartfelt memorial. the place that people remembered lauryn hill was so important to those who knew her. leon: first, the massive effort to put out this fire. [captioning performed by the national captioning institute, which is responsible for its caption content and accuracy. visit ncicap.org] alison: investigators do not know what sparked a five alarm fire that destroyed a new jersey grocery store. after efforts to save the building failed, crew spent five hours trying to stop the fire from spreading. they succeeded and nobody was hurt. the grocery store was scheduled to reopen next week after a fire in january forced it to close. leon: people in california found a mountain lion inside of a home, sitting in a crawlspace amid the equipment. it was too big to be moved by animal control. wildlife officials decided to try to coax them out with a tennis ball launcher. it turns out the au

formation of the environmental protection agency itself signed by a conservative republican president, richard nixon. try to imagine that happening today. and as far as the legacy or the spirit of earth day, yes, it has changed like many other things. a lot of people think it has been something coopted by the business community where they can once a year demonstrate their environmental bona fide but nevertheless it's still an important day for the environmental community and for president obama and politicians to make the point they're working on one side or the other on this urgent issue of climate change. >>> there was a little stream across the street from the school in baltimore, maryland. that's what i remember. my goodness. all the information in that head of yours, mike. let's take a break and come back with more in just a moment. you're watching al jazeera america. america. ruthless smuggleing gangs. they have been discussing for years how to keep the smuggle from happening on sea. and the problem goes far beyond italian waters. further west off the coast of spain 44 africans rescued by coas

our older viewers will know him as richard nixon's favorite mayor.ur younger viewers a senator of the time. thanks for coming in. you were one of many people coming cleaning many senators hillary clinton with her husband leading a foundation. you were concerned about contributions to the foundation as well as president clinton's speaking fees. tell us what you want to be on guard against for the public interest. fmr. senator luger: the first foreign relations committee john kerry chaired was on the senate nomination. my staff, the minority staff had been negotiating with the clinton folks because i stated it seemed to me to be impossible for someone serving as secretary of state with a husband who had been president of the united states to receive gifts coming into the family foundation without there being questions raised, and corruption might be involved. we made this very clear at the hearing and questions then. the floor statement i made at the time when she was confirm. i said i would support her. you need something to be secretary of state and

. >> as richard nixon discovered, it's not the crime, it's the cover-up. in this case, her destruction of documents, her willful circumvention of law, her arrogant deletion of documents really is one of those nixonian moments. hillary clinton is brilliant. she is experienced. the question that people are going to ask as she runs for president does she consider herself above the law. >> so is this how it's going to be three days into her campaign, the former secretary of state is now a moving target for every republican or right-winger able to reach a microphone. a moving target indeed because just as she is getting hit from the right, she is more and more making her stand with the democratic left, declaring again and again her war on an economic and political system she says is stacked in favor of the top. meanwhile, the republican field of candidates begins to resemble a middle eastern souk, you know an open market where each candidate calls on customers to buy what he happens to be selling there is a libertarian here, an establishment time there, an angr

richard nixon in 1960, hubert humphrey in 1968, gerald ford in 1976, al gore in 2000 after eight years of incumbency. e.j. dionne says that hillary's model will be george bush sr. who in 1988 ran himself as a more palatable alternative to ronald reagan and ran a brutal campaign against democrat michael dukakis. hillary clinton will have to put distance between herself and barack obama and get tough on the more extreme elements of the republican party. jeb bush might be running himself. hillary clinton and not him will take his father as a role model. annette: controversy in turkey over the pope's mention of the armenian genocide. oliver: this template has a headline on its front page -- "pope 1915 crisis." the minister of foreign affairs summons the vatican ambassador in ankara and says they are straying from the facts. in the english edition it says the pope was only citing a statement that had previously been signed by his predecessor pope john paul ii in 2001. it notes that while a number of countries have recognized the genocide but not the united states, and he wonders if the arme

look at richard nixon. sure enough we got watergate but we need to look at a character in a track record at the same thing of the same thing as we look at whenever we choose an employee or friend. somehow people just forget about those things and start focusing on what they said. she was going to treat them with contempt if she is abusive and nasty and flies into temper tantrums over nothing even going over a bump in the road. that is in on the record quote from a secret service agent who would try for. what kind of personality is that? it to someone who is certainly a hypocrite and claims she's going to help middle-class yet she can't err to treat those same people with decency. another detail is that the reason vince foster committed suicide is the one hand he was very depressed but his suicide was triggered according to the fbi agents have investigated the death for kenneth starr by the fact week before the suicide she had a big meeting in the white house with vince foster and other aides and colleagues

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. >>> what would richard nixon have thought of obama? >> talk about "if" history. >> we have the luck u luxury of time, bob. >> yeah, we do. i don't know. nixon as tough. he liked to bomb. >> yeah, he did but he was also a pragmatist. >> he was, but what is the message obama has sent to the world? he's very cerebral. when i've interviewed him. let's take something right at the core of what we're talking about. >> yeah. >> when we're -- when i'm interviewing him about the afghan decision making, he just said, oh, we're talking about the relationship between the civilian leaders, himself, and the military, and i said, let me offer some thoughts on that. and, of course, happy to have them. and he said well, i'm the first president who is not captured by vietnam. because i was not involved in the disputes of the vietnam war. obama was 13 in 1975 when ford pulled the united states out of vietnam and then obama said i don't have the baggage of vietnam. well, here in texas, lbj library, you know, think about vietnam and what's the baggage of vi

trade promotion authority that every president in the post-war era, with the ebb exception of richard nixonas received. what is exceptional is that in this framework for the first time there are requirements for enforceable labor environmental provision provisions. there is a clear attention to issues like human rights. and in many ways this is the most far-reaching and progressive trade promotion authority that we have seen going through congress. and that's important, because as i have said before it is entirely understandable that there is some scepticism around trade from working families who live in a town that saw manufacturing collapse and jobs being outsourced. people recognize there have been circumstances in the past in which trade may have contributed to aggregate growth of the global economy or u.s. economy but hurt workers. and we have learned lessons from that and this trade promotion authority, thanks to the work of senator widens and hatch, reflects some of those lessons. now in terms of actually getting a deal done the first trade agreement that we potentially would present

look at richard nixon, the fact that before he was president he was involved in this ethics issue? sure enough we got watergate. we need to look at character, track record. the same things we look at whenever we choose an employee or a friend. anybody in our lives. when it comes to the presidency somehow people just forget about those things and focus on what they said in the latest speech. in the case of hillary, she treats the little people, the people she claims she is going to help if she is president with contempt. she is abusive, nasty, flies into temper tantrums over nothing, even going over a bump in a row. that is an on the record quote from a secret service agent who would drive her. what kind of personality is that? and unbalanced personality, someone who is certainly a hypocrite, claims she is going to help the middle class and yet she can't bear to treat the same people with decency. the reason he committed suicide is he was depressed but his suicide was triggered by fbi agents to investigate the death, of the fact that a week before the suicide there was a big meeting

richard nixon rose the turmoil to the white house and what his architect promised a way out.on. mcgovern took onyxen and pleaded. >> come home america. >> reporter: nixon plucked him but he had his own demon. watergate. the scandal that drove him from office and took his finger off the trigger. then 15 years into this war, it came to a crashing dismaying end. what are the lessons of vietnam? here's one, don't use conventional means to fight an un unconventional enemy so far from home. here's another, there are people on that wall who had doubts about the war but answered the call. there are others who believed in the cause and they died as well. their common bond they died with honor serving their country. >> tom brokaw at the vietnam memorial for us 40 years after the end of that long and difficult war. that will do it for us on this thursday name. i'm lester holt. for all of us at nbc news thank you for watching and good night. >>> lights camera access. for nick yes, because he has never had a baby. hopefully, they will be fresh by the time i use them. >> sofia vergara's ex

both parties, republican and democrat, have done so, when credible allegations of wrongdoing by richard nixon were raised, his attorney general elliott richardson, appointed a special prosecutor, archibald cox, to investigate, regardless of partisan politics. likewise, when credible allegations of wrongdoing by bill clinton arose, his attorney general janet reno, a democrat appointed robert fiske, the independent counsel, to investigate those allegations. eric holder has been unwilling to demonstrate that same faithfulness to law, and unfortunately, ms. lynch has told the senate she, too, is unwilling to do so. for that reason, i urge all of my colleagues to vote no on cloture and to insist on an attorney general who will uphold her oath to the constitution and to the people of the united states of america. i yield the floor. ms. klobuchar: mr. president. the presiding officer: the senator from minnesota. ms. klobuchar: i come to the floor of the senate today to urge my colleagues to vote in favor of confirming loretta lynch as attorney general. i disagree with my colleague from texas. i serv

and so richard nixon acted like the party, didn't he?the bull, so late one night h and there was n there that was really beloved on the staff and the president said do you want to bowl with me and the two of them did so until two in the morning. and he said my wife will never believe this that i was out bowling with you, so the president went into the oval office and wrote a letter to his wife explaining what they were doing and another staffer said that there might have been a bottle of scotch involved. kennedy: that was the 60s and 70s. we only have 30 seconds left very at what happened with george bush and the pesticide? >> oh, he was playing horseshoes and they accidentally sprayed him with industrial-strength pesticide and he had to be decontaminated. but because he was who he was, he said let's get back to the game. kennedy: he was a good sport. the most beloved for his family that has been in the white house. we really appreciate you coming by. if you love politics come you have to get this. it's a great book. coming up, the relau

richard nixon. what did she do with the tape? she presses a but ton and destroyed her life. now, in light ooft book, now you a really want to see the e-mails. i think it's going to be very tough for her. it's going to be interesting. the only thing i can say is is that over the years, they've gotten away with a ltd. of thing that is are just inconceivable. i'm disappointed with republicans. they are all talk, no action, whether it's b p benghazi, the irs, the e-mails. this is a huge feeling of indignation. him ri says the most important thing i did was restore leadership and i think this was a very important accomplishmented. 2340u, you think you can beater her. how are you going to beat this woman? >> i think she's got tremendous baggage. she's got unbelievable baggage. i think i'm the only one that can beat her. i know the other people, they're soft. i've been called by the most important people in politics telling me, and i don't think they're saying it to make me feel good, that i'm the only one that can beat hillary clinton. i understand exactly what they're saying. and

the richard nixon presidential library conducting this interview as part of a project. this portion is about 50 minutes. that weekend on a sunday, the office is broken into. i believe the name of the assistant was andrew pierre. you will think that might be it. andrew pierre. and he told me there's no question there had been a burglary of the files that weekend. and it's in gredell's office. vrjs now my former wife had told the f.b.i. that i had given the pentagon papers to fullbright and gredell. so they kpaj rated the degree of my intimacy. so i think hunt and libbey on the way homemade a little operation into gredell's office. they didn't do burglarizing themselves, but they probably had some other help on that. it didn't matter in the end. >> did you ever ask kroeg about that? >> yeah i i think i did, but he did not know. oh, yes. why would they be interested in my wife's analyst? the plumbers were -- that is the cubans who work for hunt and lib by, were interviewed at great length by taylor brarj and george trial for a book they were doing on the bay of pigs, actua

a lot of people in the business of the soon discovered, like him make up a name richard nixon you would rather want to pretend that the press is the enemy as opposed to what had been done to the enemy. it took a long time for us to undo itself. the process of it was, i have a great good fortune. i believe so much. i get the opportunity. i've never actually been involved in something in which a truly bad situation was not only confronted go over those who were persecuted out of existence by a man who best could be described -- well, i won't do it. [laughter] and academic guys were just being essentially that their day came with its stunning and that that was they have been warning over claiming was now validated by the university's own money not because that one report the state as well as university. three, it is a reminder that edmund burke was corrupt and the old clichÉs true, the triumph of evil is always the book. faculty at unc was largely within the category of the silence of the lambs to end the administration was largely in the category of commits if i just close my eyes command

it's almost like a huge slush fund so big that it would make richard nixon blush, but when she was secretary of state they said that they would restrict all of that and bill clinton's own speaking, the truth of the matter is that they took lots of donations, there were conflicts all along the way even when she was promoting some of the countries, they were giving money to this foundation great as we also know that this wasn't just used to do good in the world but to finance the political lifestyle and travel all over the place and the travel of other celebrities and others who were with them. the fact that they wanted to keep it going is a big problem because we found that one of the biggest concerns i have is this questionable ethics and scandals that follow her wherever she goes. lou: she is off to a rough start politically with the inaugural tour of her campaign to her party's nomination. but the campaign says that everything went swimmingly. what is the reality in your view? >> i think that they hope to have an introduction tomato like something other than a politician that she is. whene