these two gentlemen daniel webster and richard nugent both voting for daniel webster found themselves out of a seat on the -- of the rules committee within minutes. very, very quickly. you know, these folks you know, this is a hammer to be used in kind of extreme cases like that. boehner also took tim huelskamp, republican of kansas off the agriculture committee in 2012. hulse camp saw this as leading to his primary loss in 2016. again, something to be used very sparingly. and finally to highlight how this can have very high backlash potential, mark meadows temporarily lost his chair position as on an oversight subcommittee. this is the same gentleman who a couple months later filed a discharge petition against speaker boehner, thus inaugurating a series of events that ended in boehner losing his speakership probably willfully so at that point but you know, had a tremendous amount of backlash, garnered a lot of attention and a lot of people did not see the discharge pardon me, the motion to vacate the chair, excuse me, motion coming. so high backlash potential, no the a really great t