richard primus is a theodore stained antoine collegiate professor or he teaches the u.s. constitution. like professor barnett, professor primus received the inaugural guggenheim award. among his publications he is the author of the american language of rights. professor primus worked for the u.s. court of appeals's second circuit and served as my super intelligent, uncommonly savvy separately. it's a good deal more about each of the participants, but that would intrude on time for the conversation you came to hear. i will leave off and ask circuit judge let --the circuit judge to take over the reins. [applause] >> thank you, justice ginsburg, for that marvelous and overly generous, at least on my part, introduction. it is a privilege to be with two of the greatest scholars on constitutional interpretation in the business these itsy -- these days. professor barnett and professor primus. thank you, justice ginsburg, for hosting this wonderful event. let me get straight on to business. nobody wants to hear me talk, they want you to explain all of the things i'm doing wrong in

we will hear from randy barnett of georgetown university and richard primus of the diversity of michigan. the event in the supreme court chamber was cohosted by the supreme court historical society and the john simon guggenheim memorial foundation. it is about one hour and 15 minutes. >> let me begin by expressing the society's gratitude to justice ginsburg. you have always been a very generous in giving of your time to the efforts of the society, when we have called upon you. thank you for taking time from your enormous schedule at this particular time of year. this evening comes about because of my deep and abiding connection to our two hosting

we will hear from randy barnett of georgetown university and richard primus of the university of michigan who are introduced by supreme court justice ruth bader ginsburg. the event, in the supreme court chamber, was cohosted by the supreme court historical society and the john simon guggenheim memorial foundation. it is about an hour and 15 minutes. jus. ginsberg: let me begin by expressing the society's gratitude to justice ginsburg. you have always been a generous -- very generous in giving of your time in your efforts to the society, when we have called upon you. and thank you for taking time from your really enormous schedule at this particular time of year. this evening comes about because of my deep and abiding connection to our two hosting organizations, the supreme court historical society and the john simon guggenheim foundation.

. -- richard primus and randy barnett. before we start i would like to , ask the other fellows tonight to stand. leah vander welled holly brewer, , david rabon, kristin stilts, kurashi landis. please give them a hand. [applause] edward: as you know, our fellowship in constitutional studies is the brainchild of my friend dorothy goldman, a trustee of the guggenheim foundation and the supreme court historical society. dorothy's passion for the constitution is matched only by her great generosity, particularly to those who advance our understanding of the constitution. she recognized that the constitution is the bedrock document of democracy everywhere, and she is doing her tremendous part to sustain constitutional studies. it is an honor to be associated with her. [applause] dorothy: and now it is my absolute pleasure to introduce the audience to justice ruth bader ginsburg, truly a privilege. the justice is both a cultural and a legal icon, and many of the details of her life are very well known to all of us. but what i wou

i'm here to moderate this evening's conversation between professor randy barnett and richard primus. role -- the honorable appeals in the court of for the d.c. circuit judge judge works for the ninth circuit and served as an advocate in the department of justice's civil division. exemplarywas an member of the general's office. appointment to the [indiscernible] cases befored 32 the court, and i attended everyone of them. [laughter] i can attest to her great skill both onrt of persuasion briefs and orally. her skill as an advocate is complemented by another strength . she is a second degree black belt. [laughter] in tae kwon do. she's been on the bench since appointment to the bench in 2013. she is a member of the historical society's board of trustees. waterhousett is the besser -- professor at the law center where he teaches constitutional law and contracts and directs the georgetown center for the constitution. he was one of the two recipients of the inaugural goal guggenheim awarding constitutional studies. his books prolific, and print include most recently our republican constit