. >> i was thinking about this, when i interviewed bob newhart, he said a richard pryor record was a if someone put on a hip-hop radio station, what are they learning about the culture? >> that's a scary question. that's a scare yes question. i'm going to give you my honest answer. i believe that hip-hop is still a viable art form, but it's not what it used to be. everything in music, i love music, everything about music is cyclical. i think overtime, you come back around and people understand there's nothing wrong with music having a message and a beat and being funky, and being soulful. you can do all that in one piece. marvin gaye is a good example where not everything you do has to be socially redemptive. >> one off feeds into the other. >> absolutely. >> let's say it's 2:00 in the morning, you're having a moment. you've got a go-to song. set the mood. press play, drop the needle. >> what am i going to? >> listen, tavis, your dream night. >> 2:00 in the morning. >> yeah, you don't have to get up in the morning. >> it's hard. there's a lot of good stuff to choose from, but it is h