even richard reid could figure out if he went through all of his six closest with nothing metallic inhe pocket he would never see a body scanner. khomeini us that forget to would see one i made a lot of people angry i did not realize this but i said no. we will use of primary that changes the equation because one way took 45 seconds therefore that is not primary the other one took 12 you could work with that it had privacy algorithms that lesley stahl described as those are not pornographic we did not have a problem with the body scanners when i was there but now i think the other technology has picked up some i did not have issues secretary chertoff went through all carefully to support even the aclu while had concerns preshow them and it really was not a problem. the subsequent use i cannot comment. . .v? we were concerned about the thing that the carter administration was current -- concerned about. >> i am charlie clark with government executive magazine. a unionization question and went homeland security was set up there was a big fight over wher? the tsa ought to unionize and mo

richard reid got on airplane with explosives similar undetected. the underwear bomber undetected boarding an airplane in amsterdam bound for the united states. so whoever was going to have this chemical on their body to bring in, it probably was undetected. dogs can't smell it. unless you have sophisticated screening where you can see through the clothing and see if there's bulges or something on a body or around a body that doesn't belong there, you're not going to detect it. i would also like to add i just flew back to the united states on sunday boarding a plane nonstop landing at dulles airport sunday evening and there were no advance measures. i didn't have to take my shoes off, my belt off. no hand checking of the luggage beyond going through the belt. so even though this may have been uncovered weeks or months ago, apparently some of the other security agencies around the world didn't get the memo. >> it kind of makes you crazy though. you would think that the tsa would be developing new technology or figuring out new ways to pat-down flyers

. >> reporter: many have heard of richard reid, the so-called shoe bomber who was caught trying to blow up a miami-bound plane in late 2001. fewer people have heard of saajid badat, the other shoe bomber. he changed his mind and never boarded his flight but in a video deposition he told prosecutors of al qaeda's plan. >> reporter: and badat told of meeting osama bin laden. >> reporter: the mission was about more than crashing a plane. it was to crash the airline industry. >> reporter: badat's deposition was played at a trial about three new york men charged with plotting to bomb the new york city subways in 2009. another al qaeda recruit from new york, bryant vinas, testified he plotted to bomb a wal-mart store and the long island railroad to cause the big economic hit al qaeda leaders wanted. don borelli, a former f.b.i. agent, was involved in the investigation. >> they understand the psyche of the west that even a small plot that's successful will cause huge economic disruption. >> reporter: al qaeda is weaker than it was a few years ago but is still trying to recruit westerners. >> t

it looks at past al qaeda slots including the shoe bomber richard reid. it teaches wannabe terrorists how to make it happen. >> he dropped a 6 foot 100 pound missile right in the middle of his texas neighborhood. >> something dropped out of the sky. a helicopter passed and dropped 200 feet it would have hit the house. >> the missile was inactive but nearly 100 homes were evacuated as a precaution. they are trying to figure out how the missile came lose. >> a mail sorter accused of helping himself to packages headed to u.s. forces overs seas. 41-year-old terrence row spotted wearing a woch stolen 4 days earlier. he snatched a $300 bracelet and $150 cell phone. inspectors got suspicious after learning packages mailed to the troops were already opened. >>> a close call check this out the alligator nearly bit the arm off. when the man approached it and tried moving it. animal experts were called in and they moved the gator to a nearby swamp: >> don't move the alligator. >> now students in another catholic school could be feeling the fallout of president obama

you know, i think even in the paper two days ago the shoe bomb we are richard reid he testified in new how they were working for khalid sheikh mohammed. >> right. >> no terms he was involved in an extraordinary number of plots. he was creative. a lot of them and i hate to keep referring to it. we go into the details in the book about which plots worked. the mind set. he was coming up with plots all the time. some would work, some i wouldn't. i think one of the biggest, i hate to use the contribution. that's positive. one of the most things he did was set up terrorism cells here and there. he was instrument tal in helping southeast asia come into the al qaeda folder. he helped finance the bombes and the tunisia bombings. it was a synagogue off the coast of tunisia. i think there was a lot of information that we had that he was directly, or some of his lieutenants were involved in the saab bombings in 2003 where i think peter and had i had a nice lunch, one of the royal families big dining halls, we were both there after the tacks. we didn't knew it was al qaeda. but later, we just in th

i think even in the paper two days ago, a case that was the other shoe bomber -- he and richard reid working directly for khalid sheikh mohammed. in terms of -- he was involved in a number of plots. a lot of them created, and i hate to keep referring to it, but we go into detail about which plots work in which demand. also, his mindset. he was literally coming up with plots all the time. someone work and someone in. i think one of his biggest -- i hate to use the word contribution, but one of the most important things he did was set up terrorism cells here and there. he was instrumental in helping in southeast asia and have a nexus with them. i think he helped finance the bali bombings. it was a synagogue off the coast of tunisia. i think that there was a lot of information that we have that he was directly were some of his lieutenants were involved in the saudi arabia bombings of 2003. where then peter and i had a nice lunch one day in one of the royal families big dining halls. later, just in the reporting of this book, we came to realize one of the names. some of the people that h

threats like a gun or knife, nonmetallic threats like plastic explosives such as type warn by richard reid, the now infamous shoe bomber and type used in a second foiled underwear bomb plot. >> i can assure you that tsa and airport security generally is going to be looking carefully at this to see what steps, if any, we have to take to upgrade our defenses against this attack. >> reporter: representative peter king is chairman of the house homeland security committee. >> if this occurred prior to 9/11, we wouldn't have been able to stop it. tsa and explosive experts will analyze this device carefully seeing how effective our current detectors are. >> reporter: the tsa says it is using 670 full body scanners across u.s. airports mostly international entry points. most european cities also use them. london, paris, rome. they are seen less frequently in asia and africa. the israelis considered to have the world's toughest airport security don't use full body scanners at all. they consider them to be unreliable. and technology has to keep up with the evolving sophistication of terror networks

the shoe bomber richard reid had no baggage at all. it had 179 passengers onboard, shannon.hannon: the powerful web ad released hours ago by a group called catholics called to witness. today one of the country's most prominent catholic leaders add his own equally strong words. cardinal timothy dolan says the white house is treading dangerous ground with its healthcare mandates and strangling the church. >> we are worried that the exemption given to the churches is so narrow and it's presume to resum use. it's that exemption. the straightjacketing exemption that we find to be very dangerous. shannon: michael reagan is a political consultant and chairman of the reagan group. good to see you, sir. what do you make of this. this whole back and forth with the catholic church, do you think the administration underestimated the response it would get? >> they were aimed at mitt romney. mitt romney the republican party trying to make this a women's issue, bring women over to obama and try to get them to vote for him. lo and behold, timothy dolan, university of notre dame and most of

for example, if you remember richard reid, the shoe bomber.ind of a covert undetected bomb. then the bomb-maker in yemen, who is probably one of the most dangerous people today. >> he's linked to the cartridge printer bombs -- >> and the underwear bomber. and he recruited his own brother to assassinate the deputy minister of interior of saudi arabia. but every time he built any of these bombs, he had a problem with the design or detonation. >> that changed on this new bomb? >> well, we don't know. this new bomb is being analyzed now with the fbi. i'm sure they're studying the design, the detonation. every time so far with the dirty -- with the underwear b b bomb, with the shoe bomb, with the assassination, they had a problem with detonation. >> and part of the problem was only one way to detonate. so if it fails, it fails. and now it looks like this particular underwear bomb has a couple of different facets. it's made in a way that if you were patted down, you probably wouldn't be able to detect it. number two, it's not metallic, it wouldn't s

>> well, the protocol as we have certainly seen in the richard reid case, in the case of mu tal ab, and to get the plane down and get it down as soon as possible. one of the things we know here is that the flight crew sat with this woman for some time. there was no indication they felt this was an immediate threat to the flight. we also know that the pilot was in communication with air traffic control. in fact, there is an exchange where he says that the cockpit is secure. they confirmed that. so there is a sense that the flight crew, while they were sort of taking all precautionary measures, also was in real communication with air traffic control and authorities saying, we feel that we have this situation under control, and they did land. and they landed pretty quickly as well. >> lizzy o'leary live from washington. >>> a season of change. one year after the arab spring toppled dictators, we'll look at a presidential election that could draw 50 million voters. [ thunk ] sweet! [ male announcer ] the solid thunk of the door on the jetta. thanks, mister! [ meow ] [ male announcer ] anoth

, speaker boehner, majority leader reid from the senate go and try to work out something that will be amenable to both sides. >> primary race is contest today, richard lugger how big in trouble is he this time around? >> looks like he is going to lose his republican primary. i would say if you had to guess right now with the polls in indiana opening soon, that only tomorrow, we would find out, that richard murdoch will be the republican nominee, for that senate seat and lugger has been in senate for decaderepresented the people of indiana for a very long time but looks like his campaign just ran into a wave that it is not going to be able to overcome. >> editor with cq senate watch appreciate you coming in. >> thank you. >>> 7:39 a.m., a new twist in the penn state sex abuse scandal. coming up why two administrators say charges against them should be dropped. >>> he has been in the hospital for weeks now, but for what? an update on the god father of go go, chuck brown after the break. >> also ahead, cat fights on dynasty were the stuff of legends. ♪ [ music ] >> actress linda evans is joining us in studio she and actress, linda grey of dallas fame w

hereby appoint the honorable richard blumenthal, a senator from the state of connecticut, to perform the duties of the chair. signed: daniel k. inouye, president pro tempore. mr. reid: mr. president? the presiding officer: the majority leader. mr. reid: i move to proceed to calendar number 396, h.r. 2072. the presiding officer: the clerk will report. the clerk: motion to proceed to calendar number 396, h.r. 2072, an act to reauthorize the export-import bank of the united states and for other purposes. mr. reid: mr. president, we're now on the motion to proceed to the export-import bank reauthorization bill. i ask unanimous consent that the hour following my remarks and those of the republican leader be equally divided and controlled between the two leaders or their designees. the presiding officer: without objection. mr. reid: and i would also ask, mr. president, as part of that that the majority would control the first half and republicans the final half. the presiding officer: without objection. mr. reid: at 11:15 the motion to proceed will be adopted and there will be up to two hours of debate on the bill. there will be up to five amendments. at 12:30 senate wil

hereby appoint the honorable richard blumenthal, a senator from the state of connecticut, to perform the duties of the chair. signed: daniel k. inouye, president pro tempore. mr. reid: mr. president? the presiding officer: the majority leader. mr. reid: i move to proceed to calendar number 396, h.r. 207 26789 the presiding officer: the clerk will report the motion. the clerk: motion to proceed to calendar number 396, h.r. 2072, an act to reauthorize the export-import bank of the united states and for other purposes. mr. reid: mr. president, we're now on the motion to proceed to the ex-im bank bill. we're working on an tkpwaeplt to begin -- on an agreement to begin consideration of the bill. at 4:30 today the senate will proceed to executive session to consider two of the united states district judges from maryland and illinois. at 5:30 there will be up to three roll call votes. the first two will be con confirmation of russell and tharp and the third will be on the motion on cloture to proceed to the ex-im bank bill. there was a time a bill to reduce the deficit to support hundreds of thousands of jobs would fly through the senate with bipartisan support. not so an

richard blumenthal, a senator from the state of connecticut, to perform the duties of the chair. signed: daniel k. inouye, president pro tempore. the presiding officer: the majority leader. mr. reid thank you. we're now considering the motion to proceed to the stop students loan interest rate hike. at 4:30, the senate will proceed to executive session to consider three judicial nominations, the nguyen nomination, the baker and lee nominations which are two district court nominations from arkansas and illinois. at 5:30 there will be up to three roll call votes on confirmation of the nominations. mr. president, a woman from nevada by the name of amy reilly, a single mother from las vegas, was devastated when she was laid off three years ago because of her employer having little work. she wasn't in love with her job doing bookkeeping for a local construction company but she loved the steady paycheck. so looking back on the pink slip, amy views it as, of course, a setback in one sense but really she feels very good about the fact that it gives her a second chance. like many resourceful americans who lost their jobs after the financial and housing markets collapsed, amy took the oppor