. >> there's no way you can compare him to richard reid, the shoe bomber.y higher up in the food chain. -- >> hundreds of people were killed as well. >> yeah. >> i mean, this is not some crazy. this is an ideologue. >> where is he going? >> i think politically the u.s. would make a huge mistake. bringing him here will increase his status amongst the -- >> show the world in an open situation there can be justice -- >> but that's the concern of a lot of these prosecutors, has it borne fruit, that gives them a showcase. >> it has never been the case. it has never been the case that someone tried in an american courtroom turns into a hero elsewhere. the only hero is the american legal system which is successful in prosecuting these -- >> these terrorism cases. >> none of these guys have become ---ing are you kidding me? the guys prosecuted in '93 for the world trade center became the iconic giant symbols for jihad. >> really? name one, mark. name one. >> the guy who drove the truck. >> that's how famous they are. >> i'm not in the jihadist movement. but i will

richard reid said kennedy saw himself in the middle of all these arrows.s. >> without question it was chaotic. we talk about crisis. he passed through crisis after crisis over cuba, over berlin, over nuclear weapons. >> who was the most influential voice and least influential voice. you wrote in the book some people were misinterpreted. >> most influential voice was bobby kennedy. one of the frustrations for historians is they had meeting after meeting behind closed doors. we don't have records of that. we don't know what they said to each other. the only way we could figure this out is bobby would go into these meetings and say things and some people said jack would smile. because bobby was sort of being the hatchet man. he was taking the initiative. bobby kennedy was the adviser. >> the book is show white coll fifth season. they join us next. guys. i'm driving. hey, you guys comfortable? it's best-in-class rear legroom. and with a turbo engine that gets 35 highway m-p-g. you know j.d. power ranked passat the most appealing midsize car two years in a row?

in reality it's the senate led by the democrats and harry reid that is refusing to have an honest conversation. >> in the blame game richard, does it matter who is at fault? at this point does anybody gain -- you hear them saying the republicans and the democrats saying we are going to win, and do they not understand they have to roll up their sleeves and do this? i am not talking about republicans or democrats, you work for us and you should make it happen? >> i agree with you. if you look at the facts and what is happening out there, and the cdc is not checking for disease outbreak and it's time for the government to get back to work and congress needs to get back to work funding the government. >> hasn't congress passed a bill that said we will fund the government, we just won't fund obama care. the president says i will not negotiate you holding the guns to the american people. i mean, number one, the president talking like that is beneath the office, and then number two, what is to negotiate if you are saying you won't negotiate? >> congress is a broad word, and i would say it's one side of the house, and one small ca

negotiatings, but i sense from the leaks of nancy pelosi and harry reid and others who say we just need more money coming in, and when richard trump of the afl-cio says don't you consider touching entitlements and democrats with rue the day, then you have to think that the pressure is building to keep the spending spigot going and maybe to try to squeeze more out of the rich, but down the line out of others as well, and they use the dustup we get everytime we have sequestration cuts and all of this self-made, i might add -- to say that proves there isn't the appetite for this. what do you say? >> the truth is in order to get debt as a percentage of the economy down to a reasonable and sustainable level within the next 15 to 20 years, we're going to have to reform social insurance programs. we have to rationalize health care promises and too more to control costs and we need comprehensive tax reform that raises more revenue. that's the honest truth. both parties are responsible for allowing government to grow too big, promise too much, and now it's time to restructure. as you know the government's 11-1/2 times bigger as a per

richard costa with "the national review" and cnbc contributor. the question is, mitch mcconnell is working out a deal with harry reid, we've seen this before, and this ends up with john boehner going to the house floor to bring up a vote on something that he does not have a ton of republican support for and that passing with democratic votes. are we headed down that road again? >> chris, i just met with some house republicans this evening on capitol hill and i asked for predictions about what speaker boehner would do tomorrow, especially when house republicans meet for their conference meeting, and they think because now the senate is brokering a deal, they think boehner is not ready to come to the conference and ask them to accept it. the deal isn't even finalized. so, house republicans as of now, based on my reporting, are looking at sending their own package back to the senate. >> if they do that, of course, let's keep in mind, this is precisely what happened with the continuing resolution. it is precisely the series of events that have led us to the shutdown which continues to this moment, and yet, we are doing this up against a very, very diffe

richard do you think that these people would not be out protesting and you know, let's say ted cruzes of the world wouldn't be fighting tooth and nail if we had a president harry reid or nancy pelosi or a president hillary clinton? >> i don't know. we'd have to see what happened. >> i know. have you to see. but do you really think that their opposition would be less fervant? >> already certain folk whuz see republican party i'm not saying all of them i'm saying there are people in the republican party make comments like tar baby. >> stop you there. you're right people have made those comments. >> those are elected republican officials. >> but, but, people have been comments on the other side as well. like how do you then dismiss the party as, you know... >> i have been point ought just particular individuals but to go back to guy's point about obama care that is just the red hering. individual who's love my show, she's saving $500 a month because to get coverage. not to mention the fact three million young people back on their parent insurance, 50 million people can get insurance because they had conditions previously. the law works thachl is why ted cruz lost the

richard do you think that these people would not be out protesting and you know, let's say ted cruzes of the world wouldn't be fighting tooth and nail if we had a president harry reidnancy pelosi or a president hillary clinton? >> i don't know. we'd have to see what happened. >> i know. have you to see. but do you really think that their opposition would be less fervant? >> already certain folk whuz see republican party i'm not saying all of them i'm saying there are people in the republican party make comments like tar baby. >> stop you there. you're right people have made those comments. >> those are elected republican officials. >> but, but, people have been comments on the other side as well. like how do you then dismiss the party as, you know... >> i have been point ought just particular individuals but to go back to guy's point about obama care that is just the red hering. individual who's love my show, she's saving $500 a month because to get coverage. not to mention the fact three million young people back on their parent insurance, 50 million people can get insurance because they had conditions previously. the law works thachl is why ted cruz lost the deba

so harry reid says this could be an all of all of situation as early as tonight. let's talk about that very ominous statement with our own richard from new york. is he right? coo there be a downgrading of the u.s. credit rating as early as tonight, richard? >> i don't know whether it could be as early as tonight but it's certainly true if you look back at 2011, one of the reasons that the u.s. was downgraded from its aaa was not just because the debt ceiling became very close, the deadline, but because of the political paralysis. if you look back at what the rating agency said, it was the inability to reach compromise that took it to the edge that was one of the principal reasons. indeed, in hindsight that was justified because the great committee that was put together failed to reach an agreement, and if you listen to what they're talking about now, the idea of coming to some long-term budget or fiscal agreement, the rating agencies would say, well you didn't do it last time. why should we have any doubt or belief you'll do it this time. i've been looking at numbers which makes the point very clear. if you look at the u.s. trea

richard, thanks so much, i appreciate it. >>> as an impasse as we talk about what's taking place in washington, d.c. a breakdown in the budget between senators reidell as we are talking about bringing this nation much closer to defaulting on our debt coming up on thursday, the 17th. we'll talk more about the showdown, plus why men on the hill may not be talking but the women senators are, including senator susan collins. what were the details of her deal and why is it being pushed back. also would more women in the conversation help to alleviate the pressure on the hill. >>> and then obama care a success story. we're going to talk to kentucky's governor. so much praise has been heaped on that state as so many kentucky anz have had access to sign up. so why is that state doing so well? we'll ask the governor. that and much more in three minutes. peace of mind is important when you're running a business. century link provides reliable it services like multi-layered security solution to keep your information safe & secure. century link. your link with what's next. ♪ (announcer) answer the call of the grill with new friskies grillers, full of meaty t

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richard do you think that these people would not be out protesting and you know, let's say ted cruzes of the world wouldn't be fighting tooth and nail if we had a president harry reidr nancy pelosi or a president hillary clinton? >> i don't know. we'd have to see what happened. >> i know. have you to see. but do you really think that their opposition would be less fervant? >> already certain folk whuz see republican party i'm not saying all of them i'm saying there are people in the republican party make comments like tar baby. >> stop you there. you're right people have made those comments. >> those are elected republican officials. >> but, but, people have been comments on the other side as well. like how do you then dismiss the party as, you know... >> i have been point ought just particular individuals but to go back to guy's point about obama care that is just the red hering. individual who's love my show, she's saving $500 a month because to get coverage. not to mention the fact three million young people back on their parent insurance, 50 million people can get insurance because they had conditions previously. the law works thachl is why ted cruz lost the de

reid won't let it on the floor. listen, i don't want to step on the one good democratic moment of the month, so i'll be quiet and go to richard>> you just launched a website. >> i did. yes. if you want to understand the background go to msnbc right now. on that site is a great story by jeff kelly, veteran health care reporter used to work for this flate man right here kwofricove care for years. >> i loved that debate. >> it was a real debate. >> yes, it was, so, having launched a website recently. >> yeah. >> it's not fun, is it? >> not fun. look, you can't really compare these two enterprises, why not? it's "morning joe," so let's do that. >> oh my god. why? >> is that insulting? >> i think he was. >> no. do we make comparisons is that what he says? he says we're like clobbering a baby seal. >> like killing baby seals, exactly. >> you got to let me finish my point. i yield back. look, what we did was huge and ambitious and everything but nothing compares to this boast that they've tried to put together with this health care. and the promises. >> can i say something, huge liam bishs, right, you did, not comparative and it was

reid: mr. president, on the matter that we completed just a short time ago when we were in executive session regarding richard griffin, i failed to ask consent that the mandatory quorum under rule 22 be waived. i now ask that. the presiding officer: without objection. mr. reid: i ask unanimous consent the committee of commerce be discharged from further consideration of michael p. o'rielly and that the nomination be placed on the executive calendar. the presiding officer: without objection. the committee is discharged. mr. reid: i ask consent -- the presiding officer: the nomination is placed on the calendar. mr. reid: i ask consent that the senate proceed to consider the privileged section of the law under executive calendar presidential nomination number 131, that the nomination be confirmed, the motion to reconsider be considered made and laid on the table, with no intervening action or debate, that no further motions be in order to the nomination, that any related statements be printed in the record and that president obama be immediately notified of the senate's action and the senate then resume legislat

officer: the senate stands adjourned until senate stands adjourned until majority leader harry reid postponed richard correct thing to general counsel of the national labor relations board due to several senators will be in town. that vote now takes on tuesday. mr. griffin is the former union lawyer served as a board member on the nlrb after being appointed to that congressional recess. senators are also preparing to begin budget negotiations with the house as part of the deal reached to reopen the government and raise the debt ceiling. follow the senate live on c-span 2 at members cabell in tuesday. >> .net domain joins us that they look at the week ahead on capitol hill. she's a staff writer for cq rollcall. what can you tell us about the budget conference meeting went to a? who was involved in one of the main issues? >> guest: the budget conference is meeting for the first time in years a bicameral, bipartisan meeting of conferees to hash out all the issues we've been looking at, before, during and in the immediate week of the end of the government shutdown. we have at the forefront house budget c