richard branson said there is no personal or business relationship between the two, nor has there ever been. reidd a dinner in palo alto for a famous neuroscientist, where elon musk supposedly introduced epstein to mark zuckerberg, so all three of them get pulled into this discussion. reid hoffman saying he has had only limited contact with jeffrey epstein, always at request from academics and in the context of academic fundraising. elon musk denied introducing epstein to zuckerberg, saying he's "obviously a creep." a zuckerberg spokesman said they had only met in passing. and did not communicate again. but what are the implications, though, of even the hint of contact between these folks? >> by the way, the dinner you just referenced, that was only a couple of years ago. and that means that was well after epstein was declared a registered sex offender. what is atreally stake here. in new york as well, you have a massive private equity firm, apollo, whose cofounder had a deep standing relationship with jeff epstein, and their own investors now say this care is a -- carries a reputational risk. to