richard rieckenberg, your response? my response is always the chief andplanning i was a senior mass care person at the scene. laura's is right that i can only speak about mass care. it mass care is the bulk of what the red cross did or what they do for all -- for the beginning of all disasters. the bulk of the red cross workers there are mass care one thatand i'm the was planning the mass care efforts. >> justin elliot? >> i think it is sad that the red cross's position is trying to sort of cast doubt on richards accounts. first of all, the point he made is true. our reporting shows he was a high-level person responding to both isaac and sandy. but also, everything we reported that richard told us was andirmed by other officials in all most all cases, exactly also corroborated by red cross documents that we encourage people to look at on her website at propublica. cross -- it is called a lessons learned presentation -- that says, hindrance to service delivery, national headquarters, diverting truckserting assets like fo