this man bears testimony i think you should here, joining us is richard rifkin. how are you doing? >> i'm doing well. >> richard, a bit of background. you now live in los angeles and operate the jewish activity center in los angeles, and run an architecture company, but i know it's been a painful frightening three weeks. you are dealing cancer. >> with the cancer, the doctors pretty much knew what we were dealing with, but with coronavirus, there's no solution, there's no cure. and we're really just guessing, so coronavirus is much scarier. >> watching you to detail the ballots,ib ballots, i could tell there were days you didn't think you were going to make it. how did you catch it? >> my offices are inside fashion malls, so it could have been just through contact with a lot of people. i also do a lot of traveling for work. i really don't know how i got it. >> community spread, right? how long did you think you went before symptoms started showing? >> i remember very specifically it was a wednesday afternoon, 21 days ago. august of a sudden i felt a massive fever and sweats coming o