my name is richard rothman, and i happen to serve as the said committee chair of the report about civil service commission. just a little background about the grand jury, because i found that there was some misinformation that the grand jury is composed of 19 members, and it takes 12 members to approve any report topic. someone said that we hired a consultant. just to let you know, all this work was done by the members of the grand jury. we pick the topics and do all the writing ourselves and do all the interviews, with some support from the staff of the courts. but for the most part, all the writing and everything is all done by the 12 members, by the 19 members, and it takes 12 members to approve a report. one of the subcommittee's, the members of the subcommittee was myself, a retired steelworker, a retired banker, lawyer, and a gentle man who is in the newspaper industry, a reporter. we decided to look about -- in 1905, civil service and human resources -- and civil service approved a reform which cover many areas. due to our limited time, we decided to focus on the hiring process.