i'm richard rothman i'm a senior citizen. i have to comment about -- i worked for the city, communicated with city department over my lifetime. the staff on the environment is the worst department ever. if you spend a general comment in, if they answer, they don't put their name or the last one i got was from julia, she doesn't give her name or phone. when you call city department, you should get a contact information and somebody to talk to live because these people don't respond to e-mails. they didn't answer my basic question, which i'm going to discuss now. i've been recycling the -- i use recycle bags when the pandemic started, i started using paper bags and i recycle them to put my dry garbage in. i found out on a newsletter supervisor fewer, that now you have to pay a quarter for a paper bag or take your groceries outside. i did it twice. i went to one large store and where they are set up area was, i was kissing the people coming out. so much for social distancing. the second corner grocery store i went to -- [indisce