let me bring in richard socarides, the former president of equality matters.ee you. >> good morning. >> if someone had said to you a couple of years ago we'd be where we are now with the same-sex marriage fight, would you have believed it? >> no. i don't think anyone could be predicted it. >> the pace is unbelievable. >> the pace is amazing. there are now 14 states and the district of columbia that have marriage equality, and fully one-third of all americans now live in states where gay people and lesbians can get married. >> a key part of the debate in hawaii, which i think has been the rub a lot and has national implications is the difference between civil unions and a full marriage. what is the difference? tell us why this fight has become so important. >> well, civil unions are different because they are defined by the legislature to include some rights of marriage, but not necessarily all rights of marriage. >> so give me an example. >> well, there could be va varieties of inheritance rights. now the supreme court has ruled last summer that if you're marr