but you probably know richard thomas best as john boy from "the waltons." >> they neverer if give somebody who becomes successful before the age of 25. >> all right now. and hello again from fox news in washington. it's a race against time in the southern indian ocean. search vessels try to find that jet line brer the beacon on the black box goes dead. a chinese ship detected pulse signals in a new area and an australian ship picked up another signal today. fox news correspondent doug mcelway has the latest. >> a chineseship searching a small patch off all stra yale's coast picked up eye ping on friday night and saturday. they were the same freakcy as would be emitted from the data recorder. also today, an australian ship carrying deep sea found equipment picked up a third signal in the different part of the search area. authorities issued a word of caution about any rising expectations. >> these signals and the objects could not be verified as being related to the missing aircraft at that point in time. that remains the case. >> though new analysis of the satellite and radar data continue

. >> veteran actor richard thomas takes on the role of president carter that plans to be in the audienceon opening night. >> i've always wanted to be the most powerful man in the world. the most challenging thing for me right now is to try to gesture in his direction. you're watching people go through this drama. at camp david, the person that is aneace -- carter engineer by training and by mentality. he was able to fill in the emotional calibration that he needed. dialectic,n just the you have this other relationship that is intimate and loving. >> president carter kept extensive diaries. >> he wants the world to know why he did it and what happened. he hopes and i hope that it might be a lesson for leaders today that if you really want to do something significant, you gamble everything. you don't worry about your political future. you have to take chances and you have to believe in what you're doing. >> a lesson worth learning. tomorrow, we will be speaking with jimmy carter. please join us for that. we want to congratulate our colleagues that picked up the prestigious peabody award. a

you probably know richard thomas best as john boy from "the wall tons." >> they say, you know, they never forgive someone who becomes successful before the age of 25. >> all right now on "fox news sunday." >>> and hello again from fox news in washington. it's a race against time in the southern indian ocean as search vessels try to find that malaysian jetliner before the beacon on the plane's black box goes dead. the head of the search says a chinese ship has detected pulse signals in a new area, and an australian ship picked up another signal today. fox news correspondent doug mckelway has the latest. doug? >>> good morning, chris. a chinese ship searching a small patch of ocean off australia's west coast picked up a single ping on friday night and another on saturday. they were the same frequency as would be emitted by the plane's electronic data recorder. also today, an australian ship carrying sophisticated deep sea sound commitment, picked -- equipment, picked up a third signal in a different area. authorities issued a word of caution about any rising expectations. >> these signals a

with richard thomas, once john boy on "the waltons" and fbi supervisor frank gad on "the americans." >> the challenge of playing a living president who was really in the audience last night. >> it would have been a good night for an understudy. >> reporter: history focuses on carter, men knock began and sadat. >> gentlemen, please. >> reporter: but lawrence wright realized there should be another pivotal character, the first lady. >> how's the peacemaking coming along? >> reporter: i realized the character of rosalyn carter was the person who was making peace among the peacemakers. >> it's a perfect breaker, circuit breaker, if you will. >> she had emotional access to the characters the way jimmy did not. >> reporter: just as in real life, the talks almost fail. >> it was a crazy idea. completely insane. put an arab on a jew on the mountain top in maryland and ask them to make peace, what was i thinking? >> reporter: reliving the raw emotion of it again, the carters cried and embraced the actors who brought it back to life. >> his eyes were red. he clearly had been crying. >> preside

joining me now is actor richard thomas who plays president carter in the play and camp david playwrighthank you and congratulations. >> thank you very much. >> richard, the president came up stage, i was sitting right across the aisle from him and he was laughing a lot and nudging rose lynn when they got into arguments in the script, a lot of which was taken from diary. then he was weeping at the end and walked on stage. tell me what happened? >> it was very -- you can imagine what it's like to be playing anybody who is actually in the house the night of the performance. when it's the president and this particular subject it's very strong. we met prior back stage and he said, i'm very happy to meet you and meet you. i'm so pleased to meet -- i'm not so sure about how i feel about meeting you. he gave me a hug and said you did a wonderful job. it was a very special night for all of us. >> lawrence, it was tense for you as well because the president had wanted to read the script but hadn't, hadn't read the play, didn't know how he was being portrayed. you must have been nervous as well. >

. >> reporter: richard thomas got his biggest role when he just turned 21. john boy in the hit tv show "the waltons." >> they say, you know, that you never forgive someone who becomes successful before the age of 25. >> reporter: how was that, though, hitting it that big? >> you kidding me? 21 years old, a huge hollywood star, what could be better. >> reporter: thomas has worked steadily ever since and now plays an fbi agent in the tv series "the americans." but his first big part lives on. >> still, with me every day on the street. >> reporter: do people come up to you? good night, john boy. >> absolutely. all the time. >> reporter: i think it is fair to say you never hit that level of celebrity, that jackpot, are you okay with that? >> i am doing what i love. i'm a happy actor. i get to work in the theater and on tv. it's a wonderful life, you know, you're going to have to carry me off in a box. >> the play "camp david" runs at arena stage here in washington until may 4. thomas and the cast hope to take it to broadway. and that's it for today. have a great

ron rifkin is israeli prime minister menachem begin, and richard thomas is carter. >> i know we can'trget the past, but we need to keep the future in mind. we just might leave this world in a little better shape for our children and grandchildren. anwar, would you begin? >> no, no, mr. begin first. >> no, sir, you are the president. you should begin. >> wooduff: i met up recently at arena stage with lawrence wright, the pulitzer-prize winning playwright, who wrote the play, and the producer, jerry rafshoon, who lived the events as president carter's communications director. >> i saw that this was a story of when a devout muslim, an orthodox jew, and a born again christian went behind the closed doors, or the closed gates of camp david, and came back with the only peace treaty that has stood the time in the middle east. american officials defy reports that the talks almost fell apart last night >> wooduff: i, too, lived these events, as white house correspondent for n.b.c. news, part of the press corps kept outside. i can remember days of tension and uncertainty, and i was curious to k

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geoffrey thomas, you're there in perth. what k you tell us? richard and i are going back and forth about the significance of this particular news conference. >> reporter: look, i agree with richard on this, if it had just been the senator, the minister of defense, it would probably be domestic political. however, angus houston joining him, it may add a little bit of credibility to it or a little bit more weight to what we're going to hear. there might be a little bit more significance. but as richard says, if angus' boss is going to be there, they be he should be there as well. i'm not actually that hopeful that we're going to get something major out of it, was you never know. because this is such a dynamic search that information is coming through all the time and it may well be that what they're going to announce will be superseded by something that comes through at the last minute. >> at the very least, i would expect him to take questions as he has been very transparent with the media thus far. we may get something, if not out of a direct announce

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geoffrey thomas and richard quest are with me, along with jeff wise. jim tilmon is a retired american arables pilot. arthur rosenberg is a pilot, engineer and aviation attorney. and then mary schiavo is a former inspector general for the department of transportation. captain tim taylor is an underwater vehicle expert. thank you all for joining us again tonight. malaysian authorities said that they are -- they discussed these transcripts released from the cockpit. over 53 minutes long. >> let's go through how this would be written -- >> and have arthur rosenberg respond. >> absolutely. i am going to give you the words -- i'm going to be the air traffic controller, you are malaysian flight 370. malaysian 370, climb level 370. >> what time are you at, richard? >> 12:50.06. >> how would you respond to that without looking at it. >> if i say malaysian 370, climb flight level 350. >> i would respond with the name of the plane, flight level 350, malaysian 370. >> which is spot-on to how exactly they do it. then you come further on to the end of the transcript

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geoffrey thomas, you're there in perth. what k you tell us? richard and i are going back and forth about the significance of this particular news conference. >> reporter: look, i agree with richard on this, if it had just been the senator, the minister of defense, it would probably be domestic political. however, angus houston joining him, it may add a little bit of credibility to it or a little bit more weight to what err wwe going to hear. there might be a little bit more significance. but as richard says, if angus' boss is going to be there, they be he should be there as well. i'm not actually that hopeful that we're going to get something major out of it, was you never know. because this is such a dynamic search that information is coming through all the time and it may well be that what they're going to announce will be superseded by something that comes through at the last minute. >> at the very least, i would expect him to take questions as he has been very transparent with the media thus far. we may get something, if not out of a direct announ

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this is overwhelming. >> it is. >> geoffrey thomas, appreciate you. and richard quest.ryone else, please stay with us. officials recommended live streaming data from the cockpit, but is that enough? what about cameras in the cockpit? that always sparks a lively debate. it may seem like a no brainer. we will talk to a pilot that doesn't quite see it that way. that's next. marge: you know, there's a more enjoyable way to get your fiber. try phillips fiber good gummies. they're delicious, and an excellent source of fiber to help support regularity. wife: mmmm husband: these are good! marge: the tasty side of fiber. from phillips. >>> malaysian officials have said a report will be made in one week. cnn learned the report proposes live streaming information from the cockpit in future flights. this will help to lessen reliance on the black box. does that go far enough? should we consider cameras in the cockpit? this always sparks a lively debate on the show when we talk about this, captain cassidy. as a result of this case, there's been renewed talk about beefing up airline s

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back with us on set we have thomas roberts, mark halperin, richard haass, and mike barnicle who's live be a bittersweet day. mike's going to join us a little bit later. in just a few hours the boston marathon will be held for the first time since the deadly bombings last year. 36,000 people will be taking part in this 118th run. the second largest field in the race's history. hundreds of thousands will be cheering them on though. security extremely tight with more than 3,000 officers both in uniform and undercover. and more than a hundred high-tech surveillance cameras. we'll get to mike in a second. >> going to get to mike in a few minutes. also talking about boston, so much going on over there. but speaking of boston -- >> yes. >> -- one of their senators in the united states who represents boston, she wrote a book. >> yes, she did. >> and i -- you read it last night. >> i'm halfway through. >> and you're very excited because you probably think that since she's written this book, her re-election to the senate is sealed. this is about her being re-elected to the senate, right? >> i th

we will get reaction from geoffrey thomas, the editor in chief of airline ratings.com. richard quest also with me here on the set in new york. geoffrey, we saw martin demonstrate the flight 370 may have flown as low as 4,000 feet. what would make a plane descent or drop to that level? >> it is an interesting question, don. it had been speculated when the information was first rumored a few weeks ago out of malaysia, they might have been terrain hugging to avoid radar. it seems to support the theory that this was a very deliberate action combined with the altitude changes that we had known about and also the information which cnn got a few days ago that the airplane had flown completely around indonesia. it all seems to paint a picture of trying to avoid primary military radar. >> richard, what more do we know about the altitude drop and why the info is coming out now. remember we heard the drop to 12,000 feet. >> we had numerous altitude reports. the first said it was up to 45 and then down to 2 3. then one at 12,000 and that wasn't for radar but to avoid traffic and now this o

i wonder how long it takes, thomas, to do one of these. >> i don't know but richard engel back there.ngs have become a viral sensation. williams is look nothing how to get -- how the team actually chooses the songs. >> you've done this to me seven times. >> we've done this to you. done this for you. >> oh, okay. i would like some pride of ow authorizeship what about some early pre-hearing foxy brown, what about some -- [ cheers ] >> how do you know foxy brown. >> any luda would be great. i'll do roll out. >> you mean ludacris? you know him that well, luda. >> i'll do -- who's your weed man. why you smoke so good? >> what is going on? what is going on? >> what is happening up on that floor, louis? what is happening above us? >> i have no idea. >> i don't know if i like it. jimmy's taking notes writing down all those requests. we'll see what he comes up with next. >>> stephen colbert is questioning whether last week's shoe-throwing incident with hillary clinton was planned. >> hillary's motivations for staging this shoe-spiracy are why. remembering the bush incident she may seem to thin

and givery thomas is joining us from australia. richard, what the australian prime minister is saying they will regroup and reconsider, what does it mean? >> if you haven't found anything in the area where you were most promising to find something and houston basically said it is around the ping that gave the strongest signal which we now know this evening was the second ping. if you haven't found anything in that vicinity, you have got to really seriously question is it worth keeping going to the first and third and fourth. that's when you have to rethink the strategy. >> give geoffry, you have been talking to your sources there. do you have any insight in to the program -- is there really a plan "b" here? >> i think there is a very strong conviction where they are looking right now is where the airplane is. that's the undercurrent that i get to the number of people that i speak to on this issue. plan "b," they are talking about if it is deeper than the 4 1/2 thousand meters, significantly deeper they will have to get other submersibles t

back to perth with geoffry thomas, and robert the editor of flying magazine. richard quest is back with me here in new york. geoffry, to you first, you see some parallels between what is happening with mh-370 and the successful search for air france 447. explain that to us. >> yes, indeed, don. with the search for 447, when they finally triangulated where they believed the wreckage was, they put down a bluefin-21 to have a look. it took them actually eight days, even though they knew virtually precisely where the plane was, it still took them eight days to find it. the wreckage on the bottom was confined to a small area, as well. we're in day four, four and a half in to this search on the bottom. we have a long ways to go yet before we sort of really completed a thorough search of the area where the pings have come from. don't forget, we have had four very strong pings. we had two fade out pings. according to one of the greatest wreck hunters of the world, david burns, he says we've found it. he's very, very confident that they are looking in the right spot. there's a

richard, thank you very much. and you might be surprised by that. we're going to dig deeper into real-time tracking later on in the show. now i want to go jeffrey thomas, editor-in-chief of airlineratings.com, in perth. hello. what do you make of what richard reported? that the malaysians have completed their preliminary report but have not released it. they say they have information to hide, but what concern, you know, does this raise for you? >> look, unfortunately, don, it just adds fuel to the fire which is like a furnace of disbelief, particularly in china, as to what is going on. i mean, if they say there's nothing to hide, then release this preliminary report as virtually every other jurisdiction does with an accident. they say and they maintain nothing to hide. well, let's have a look at it. and as richard points out, if there's any particularly sensitive parts, they can be taken out of the report that's published on line. >> jeffrey, the prime minister, tony abbott, spoke with reporters about the state of the search. he said australia won't give up. but realistically, where do they go from here? >> well, look, i don't believe australia will g

richard. i want you to get that microphone back working. i'll bring in geoffrey thomash, australia, for a moment. i ask you this question every day because you're so well plugged in over there, geoffrey. what are you hearing? the latest you're hearing about the underwater search. that seems to be wrapping up now. 90% of the area has been reviewed. they found absolutely nothing so far in the air search. what's the latest you're getting? >> well, on the underwater search, the tough mission, we understand, is now complete, not confirmed. there may be another dive of the bluefin-21 in this particular area where the pinger number two was. my understanding is that the pinger one, which is about six miles to the north of the second ping, is an area that they're very interested in as well, so we may see the ocean shield relocate there. but then i think it is going to be widened with greater assets like the towed orion side scan sonar. as far as the air search is concerned, the commercial element wound up about a week ago. that was where the chartering corporate jets with, to go

richard quest is with us and david gallo. also former transportation department inspector general mary schiavo and jeffrey thomas joins us from australia. and what about the australian prime minister saying they will regroup and reconsider. what does that mean? >> if you haven't found anything in the area where you were most promising to find something, and houston basically said it's around the strong -- the ping that gave the strongest signal which we now know this evening was the second ping. if you haven't found anything in that vicinity you've got to really seriously question is it worth keeping going to the first and the third and the fourth? and that's when you have to rethink the strategy. >> jeffrey you are taubilking t source there. is there really a plan "b" here? >> look, i think there's a very strong conviction that where they are looking right now is where the airplane is. that's the undercurrent that i get to the number of people that i speak to on this issue. plan "b," they're talking about if it's deeper than the 4500 meters they will have to get other submersibles that can go down deeper. this is the final r

and let's bring in richard quest, and david gallo, and also with us, david souci, cnn analyst and author of "why planes crash." and aviation writer geoffrey thomasdavid, the bluefin so far yielded no information about the plane, what we know about it in the last bit still being analyzed. searchers said the last dive that took about nine hours was particularly successful. does that tell you anything? >> just that they're getting better at what they do. i mean, this team is a well qualified team. they're getting the vehicle tuned to work at those depth thethe -- getting the vehicle out and more power. and just the peak performance. >> and david, they're suggesting they may have to expand the search area beyond where they heard their pings. i mean, it looks along the arc where they think the plane may have actually gone. but if that is the case it seems like we're in for a very long haul. >> if we're talking about can't matthews talked early on about tactical surveying going right on at the bull's eye. if they're talking about wider areas, they will have to talk more about the vehicles. don't know how they will do that. >> geoffrey, everybody invol

thomas fames finds out if he will be released free. >> most people think they can't. do pull-ups. >> narrator: michael lesher shares his jailhouse fitness tips. >>> here's what's happening . >>> breaking news. good evening. i'm richard liu. a news conference moments ago wrapped up. the leader of the search team says they have now heard three pulse signals in the past three days that could be connected to the plane's black box. latest was heard just within the last two hours by a ship called owing shield, an australian ship. two other signals were heard by a chinese ship. we'll continue to follow this story on msnbc. now back to lock up. >> i'll help you build self esteem and all of that, man. >> i'll miss you. i'll be home soon. every day. 500, no, stop. >> don't worry about it. take a shower. >> narrator: most inmates at san antonio's bear county jail find working out is one way to beat the monotony of incarceration. and michael lesher is no exception. >> most people think they can't do pull ups from it. >> narrator: the pull up method is against jail rules. he says his sets are short enough that he can usually do them out of sight of roaming officers. but he knows he can't stay fit from exercise alone. >> after th

richard quest, cnn analyst michael kay. collin keller, an integral player in the search for air france 447. and geoffrey thomas, managing director of airline ratings.com. what do you know about this? >> well, before we get -- if we may, here we have the -- >> i know, but first answer the question, and then we'll get to that. because they're waiting to confirm that. what do you know about this? >> what i know about it is that we've known for a long time that the plane went north then turned to a u-turn, then went down into the strait of malacca, out to the west, and then across down into the indian ocean. you're watching it here. now we believe it's been confirmed or at least sources say that turn at the top was designed to in some shape avoid crossing malaysian airspace, at least crossing the land mass. it probably would have been caught on radar, but they do believe that that's why it was done. >> go ahead. >> yeah, i mean, just following from what richard is saying, primary radar goes out to about 125 miles around that. and the point here is that there is no definitive line which you cross, which goes from b

richard, i want to get your take. for the first time since 1654, when ukrainian cost x formed an alliance with moscow --" whypolish rulers will the u.s. necessarily pay dearly for this? >> it is something like thomaso at the beginning. ukrainians will feel like they were encouraged to take this tough line against russia, but when push comes to shove, they're going to find out that the west really does not have it simply. to put this is what happens to hungary in 1956, czechoslovakia 1968. our support for democratic movements sometimes get ahead of our willingness to deal with the power on the ground. knockdowne the effects, particularly to the baltic states in the north if routine -- if president putin the threat? >> they have nato forces on the territory. hopefully they are safe. the place to watch next is moldova. it is a country sandwiched between romania and ukraine and is a polyglot country. part of it declared independence with a pro-russian government back in the early 90's. >> for a valuable. i saw your boss, secretary chertoff in washington. looks like you guys are busy. i can imagine how the phone is ringing off the hook. it is a busy week. that and earnings, this after soggy jpmorgan re

richard quest doing outstanding work for us. thank you. >>> let's bring in our panel of experts. cnn aviation analyst, peter goelz. cnn afteruation analyst, michael kay. aviation consultant, ken christianson. geoffrey thomasef of airlineratings.com joining us from pauaustralia. peter goelz, they're going to move this underwater search a little further north based on what, the second ping as opposed to the strongest ping? is that what they're going to do? >> that's exactly right. i think they're obligated to do that. the australians made a big deal about the pings. they've said this is the right spot, the investigators have said this is the right spot. they've got to search the area around each of the pings. >> so far, ken, the first ping, loudest ping, strongest ping has produced nothing. the assumption was if you get the ping from one of these so-called black boxes, there's going to be a lot of other wreckage nearby. if that's there, presumably other wreckage from the plane would be there but they searched this first area, found nothing. do you suspect they're going to find something in a weaker pinged area, if you will? >> i suspect they're going to find something within that area. that was a 17-mile ar

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