we spoke to professor richard verna, re banking and development economist had told us the wes should review their policies on russia. crane is an important neighbor of russia. russia is the most important, maybe a few grain. so that relationship is actually clearly quite important. as for these 2 countries and also for europe, it is unfortunately sort of the, for the point of tension and friction between the us and made so interests on the one hand. and then the 2 political interests of, of russia on the other. whereby we have to keep in mind that it's been really nato that has constantly moved eastwards since 1990. it seems that the russian position and certainly in terms of the economics of it has actually strengthened. and of course, also in those days, the sanctions imposed on russia have strengthened the russian economy because thanks these restrictions, russia is actually developed, it's domestic economy more and expanded as a k. so sort of in port substitution of that 60 b, the long term beneficial for russia. so what we see that russia seems to be getting stronger and stronge