well, you know, without editorializing, as emphatically and eloquently as richard coen did, you look at the political side scott walkerying to be the reasonable conservative this year. and trying to court some of that money, trying to court those people and something like this is said something that is a little bit inflammatory -- or very inflammatory doesn't help walker. and that's the real issue here. giuliani is not really a factor here. he is a draw as a surrogate, but he is not running. >> gotcha. so staying on 2016 politics here. the "washington post" reported that the clinton foundation has raised nearly $2 billion since its creation in 2001. so where has this money come from? and why are some calling it a bit of a conflict here? >> the money comes from all over the world, both governments, individuals, corporations the mission of the clinton foundation is to help worldwide with disease and other sort of initiatives. what you are seeing here though, and it's very interesting, is the very first time that two -- that the bush-clinton dynamic is working, and the fact they both have foundations may neutralize itsel