well t w chief international editor richard walker has the latest welcome richard what else of a doctor say. here well phil i mean we were talking about this just before this statement came out just saying about how careful of course the doctors would be making a statement that could be so sort of politically explosive as this and i think what's really most striking about the statement is just how sure they appear to be about their findings so off to really just a short time 2 days of examining this enough they say that in multiple tests in independent laboratories they have confirmed this effect of this substance on these body now they don't know what the substance exactly is yet but they can see the effect of it and this leads them with strong confidence evidently to say that it looks like this is a poisoning now just compare that to what the russian hospital was saying of the last few days before he was finally released to come to germany where they were saying they could find no trace of poisoning i think it becomes easier to understand just why family was so keen to get him out of

let's get more on this from moscow correspondent emily show when that chief international editor richard walker welcome both and start with you richard a chance or a knuckle reacted quickly to the hospital statement diplomatically speaking how strong was that reaction. yeah well it's being received here in germany as quite a strong diplomatic status at least on the diplomatic level you know you have a statement produced very quickly as you said not just coming from america but also from the foreign minister so 2 very you know the 2 top heavyweight figures in the government for these purposes also representing both parties in the coalition and making it very clear in the statement that they have no questions whatever about the credibility of the findings from the hospital here and then of course going on to demand that russia find out who was responsible for it. bring them to justice into do so in full transparency and i think that's where the questions really begin because do they really expect russia to do that i think you know people here are looking at russia's past actions of a similar case

let's get more on this from moscow correspondent emily showing that chief international editor richard walker welcome both or start with you richard a chance or merkel reacted quickly to the hospital statement diplomatically speaking how strong was that reaction. yeah well it's being received here in germany as quite a strong diplomatic stable at least on a diplomatic level you know you have a statement produced very quickly as you said not just coming from america but also from the foreign ministers 2 very you know the 2 top heavyweight figures in the government for these purposes also representing both parties in the coalition and making it very clear in the statement that they have no questions whatever about the credibility of the findings from the hospital here and then of course going on to demand that russia find out who was responsible for it and bring them to justice and to do so in full transparency and i think that's where the questions really begin because do they really expect russia to do that i think you know people here are looking at russia's past actions of a similar cases i

and the w.c. a chief international editor richard walker can tell us more welcome richard let's start with alex in the valleys condition. yeah very good old phil has emerged from his team or from the hospital over the last couple of days since he arrived here in berlin. and the last that we really heard that was something concrete to go on was from the government envoy for eastern european affairs whose was beating on the german media this morning saying that the condition was critical but stable but of course the people we really want to hear from is the dr stephen i'll show you to the hospital we just saw in the report there they say that they're undergoing really very very extensive diagnostic tests on mr novell need to try and find out what happened and of course to try and see about how to treat him best. and it was this is a complex matter so we were expecting an update today that hasn't happened yet because we're close contact with the hospital also with the team but you can understand that they're going to want to get it right they're going to be thinking about their words ver

so whether it's lyndon johnson and segregationists, whether it's richard nixon and unrepent tent cold warriors. george walkerhe nra because the nra called federal agents jack booted thugs in the 1990s. those examples, george w. bush going to the mosque right after september 11th and saying this is not a war against all of islam. the fact that those examples come to the top of mind is telling, because they're examples where a president said, this is wrong. not well, they like me so i'm going to put up with it. again, 76 days. >> i think we're in shock, too. john meacham, i know that you feel bad for joking at the same time, it's nervous energy at this point when we watch all of this unfold before our eyes and see the president speaking that way about yet another crazy quack conspiracy theory. and we know the pain of conspiracy theories and promulgating them and how they tear people apart and bring people down and what's happened to even joe on a smaller level has been horrendous and it's all been executed by this president seemingly can't think of any other reason to hurt people. and barack obama last night,