journalist ben swan and host of economic update and author of the sickness is the system professor richard walter allight professor let's start with you here what will this review mean for the ongoing technology war between the u.s. and china. well it may be a bit controversial but again i'm afraid i have to say this is mostly political theater we are concerned about the shortage absolutely we want to do something about it so we're going to study the problem oh my goodness again as if we didn't know what it was and as if we weren't in fact looking to become less dependent on china we have to understand that minimizing a competition maximizing profits requires american companies to create supply chains like their competitors are doing and that means relying heavily on china because of what it has achieved to this point and that's not going to change because we study it and it's not going to change because we wish it were otherwise there is very little a few can do and so you have this theater to look like you're concerned of doing something but basically private enterprise is trying to survive and in

walter isaacson. i want to get your thoughts on the two issues we talked about with steve and also with richard. first of allden's approach to foreign policy that he presented yesterday, a and i personally believe a far better approach to where the united states' role should be in the world. and also to the current debate how targeted this love covid relief package is going to be. . >> to start with the foreign policy, i'm going to build on ideas that richard, before me, has written about a lot, which is you've got to have a foreign policy begins at home. you have to have strength there. but here's something else. we have a friend, joe nye. i'm going to add one specific thing to this discussion. which is that russia and china are producing large amounts of vaccines. they're not ones that perhaps i would feel quite as trustworthy. but the sputnik 5 vaccine in russia, the cons.e.c. o and the other in china are being exported and used around the world and places all the way from mexico to the middle east. and that gives a lot of advantage, a lot of diplomatic and, you know, soft power to russia and china. i thi