we spoke to banking an economics professor, richard werner, who says europe is finding it hard to replace russian energy imports. do you carry an energy minister who's heading b o the yeah, a little gas company is really looking at the facts and the reality. and he's very much aware of the european demand and requirement for energy. and the reality is, as he points out, that the u. s. supplies that everyone is now preparing for do take time. i mean, there's not enough for shipping terminals to receive it. and this, there's a whole number of logistics issues you conscious overnight switch to american or the gas supply. so the reality is the gas that the gas from russia will be needed. and we really see in the m u. k. india, a case that these indirect measures are now being taken where essentially russian gas is being imported. but it's just not admitted. that is russian gas because it 1st goes to it from russia to india, is refined there and then imported. so the reality is that until 2025, it will be difficult to replace russian gas. the winter has been somewhat mild this year. so it wasn