you mentioned richard whitney in the book just once but you don't mention later, what late end happen with him. richard whitney was the president of the new york extol exchange and the early news reels in the crash and then the beginning of the new deal, the early news reels of the new deal, he is a spokesperson for wall street saying that the securities laws are overreaching, they're unnecessary, and he was the perfect picture of a patrician. everything you think of as a pa tradition. looks like he came straight out of -- the perfect patrician, and then as now, assume all of the cultural cues in society, that is someone who is very trustworthy. he was indicted and convicted and served an active prison sentence for embezzlement, and i think that instrument actually was a big part of why the new deal was able to get their reforms through, is because that incident, his conviction for embezzlement from his stock firm undermined the credibility of our patrician class, and made americans realize that, yes, we do need to regulate wall street. >> he was the trustee for the new york yacht clu