he is the mediator between richey and i. he is the sixth member of the band. he will do our records until he throws me out. >> larry: if you don't have a great producer that will effect it. we are all very capable of producing our own records. i like the effort. in that case, we have found a great partner. >> larry: how did you -- what made you? what was your -- how did the public get to know you? >> i wrote a song. i was playing in bars, 16, 17, 18 years old. you thought that was, in fact, the big-time. you realized unless you started writing your own stuff you were going to be in a bar band for the rest of your life. i quit my own cover band to join an original band singing for somebody else. that was short-lived. i started to pen my own material. this was down on the jersey shore. fortunately for me, i thought, who is the loneliest man in the music business? the d.j. you are talking to a microphone. for somebody who began in radio. >> larry: i was one. >> i know. you wondered, is anyone or everyone listening to me? i went to a brand new radio station. so kn