. >> with me is rick bella, staff reporter. i don't know if you heard what those two women were saying but they said in around 3:05 they saw someone with a friday the 13th jason mask scaring kids at nordstroms. and my understanding is the shooting began at 3:29 or so. that's the report i had. what are you hearing? >> it is possible although those that's not what i heard. a witness told me that a man wearing one of those jason masks shoved right past them just before the shots rang out. that would have put it around 3:20. >> was that person in the food court or in the macy's. >> outside of macy's entering from the parking lot, pushing by a salvation army bell ringer with a gun in his hand and he was wearing a mask and then the shots were virtually right afterwards. so it's possible he was inside before and pulled those other shenanigans but it doesn't make sense. >> yeah. there had been another eyewitness who talked to koin that we aired earlier said she also witnessed a man in a white mask running or jogging, i believe she desc

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senator kerry was referring there as well to rick santorum's daughter, bella.rum's daughter has a genetic disorder and senator kerry says that senator santorum and other republicans that voted against the treaty did so because they hate the united nations. more meetings, more talking. sad to report no real solution today and that pretty much sums up the fiscal cliff negotiations. i feel like a broken record. here we go again on the countdown. day 26. got another 24 hours closer to the edge of the fiscal cliff which is why we have our eyes on the white house press briefing. got a live picture ready for you so we don't miss anything. for what it's worth, president obama and house speaker boehner are talking. they had a nice telephone conversation. that's terrific. the first time in a week but apparently that's the headline. that's the editorial body. not much came out of it that we know of. sources say no real breakthrough. no formal negotiations. sessions are not scheduled. no back channel discussions taking place that anybody knows about at this time and as we

former presidential candidate rick santorum whose young daughter bella is disabled called the outcome of victory saying that parents not guidelines of a treaty should be the prime factor in making decisions about those with disabilities now supporters of the united nations convention on the rights of persons with disabilities have vowed to bring up the matter in the next congress and perhaps will have a chance to do so but it looks like they'll have to work even harder to convince republican lawmakers that supporting an end of discrimination and promoting inclusiveness will not in fact harm the country or a handful of people in it who homeschool their children capital account is up next on our team let's check in with lauren lyster to see what is on the agenda lauren everyone seems to be talking about this fiscal cliff is that what you guys are talking about at all today what do you think you think we're just going to these suckers and cover the same thing everybody else is covering no chance well people are having their eyes on the fiscal cliff or even the eurozone drama what else ar

a former senator got involved on this as well, rick santorum, whose 4-year-old daughter bella is disabled. he was one of the treaty's strongest proponents. here's what he said last month. >> this is a direct assault on us and our family to hand over to the state the ability to make medical determinations and see what is in the best interest of the child and not look at the wonderful gift that every child is. >>> those claims alarmed a lot of parents with disabled children. but keeping them honest, mr. santorum's claims are not based in fact. he's claiming that the treaty would give u.n. bureaucrats power over u.s. law affecting disabled kids. but the treaty would not change u.s. law. in fact, there's no precedent that we can find that any u.n. treaty has ever changed u.s. law. we'll dig deeper on that in a moment. after the vote, cnn asked senator john kerry about santorum's claims. here's what he said. >> i have great respect for both rick and his wife karen and their daughter and their family. he's a strong family man. but he either simply hasn't read the treaty or doesn't understand it

innocuous statement had a far more nefarious meaning to the ever paranoid rick santorum who wrote in the case of our four year old daughter bella who has trusted me for eighteen a condition that the medical literature says is incompatible with life with her best interest to be that should be allowed to die so that it leaves say so yeah just like sarah palin's death panel hysteria during the obamacare debate santorum was pushing for a no vote on the treaty either because he genuinely believed that the un's one world government was going to demand the sacrifice of his four year old daughter or and this is what i think is true he cynically wanted to scare the hell out of his base to help us fundraise and sure enough right after this he sent out a fundraiser fundraising e-mail to the i don't know how many people he's got it was a little a lot of people asking for money again not a single u.s. law would have changed if this treaty was ratified by the senate in fact it had the potential to be very beneficial to disabled americans traveling abroad by providing the same accommodations in other countries that they have here but alternat

rick santorum led the charge against the u.n. treaty. he brought his 4-year-old disabled daughter bella to the events warnings it threatened american sovereignty and would allow the u.n. to make decisions about disabled children in america. that's just not true. here's what senator john kerry who fought hard to get the treaty ratified said last night. >> i have great respect for both rick and his wife, karen, and their daughter and their family. he's a strong family man. he either simply hasn't read the treaty or doesn't understand it, or he was just not factual in what he said. the united nations has absolutely zero, zero, i mean zero ability to order or to tell or to even -- they can suggest, but they have no legal capacity to tell the united states to do anything under this treaty. nothing. >> as we told you last night, former republican, repeat republican attorney general dick thornberg testified before the senate foreign relations committee in july basically saying exactly that. there's nothing in the treaty that interferes with u.s., federal or state laws, nothing. that didn't sto

rick santorum says he'll be back on the campaign trail the next few days. he spent the last few days in the hospital with his youngest daughter bella. he said she's turned the corner. >>> ten people were killed in a huge pile-up on i-75 in florida early this morning. drivers say they were blinded by heavy smoke and fog. officials are investigating if a fire may have been set deliberately. >>> now back to "caught on camera." >>> welcome back to "caught on camera." i'm contessa brewer. many of us are blessed to have a furry little friend in our lives. cats and dogs cannot only be our pets but members of our family. but for an animal hoarder, what starts off as caring for a few pets becomes overwhelming. a warning -- you might find what you are about to see disturbing. in florida, neighbors call police to complain about their neighbor's out of control hoarding. but authorities say it isn't clutter that they find. >> turned out to be 700 cats on the property. >> he's director of animal cruelty investigations of the humane society of the united states. and works closely with law enforcement to investigate reports of animal cruelty and n