rick gates did.additional charges of tax and bank fraud were filed in february 2018. manafort one time protege would cooperate. and testify against his former mentor. >> though he lost rick gates as an ally. manafort tried to contact other witnesses through a third party. while he was under house arrest. >> he reached out to try to convince potential witnesses to get their stories straight. according to mueller. who said that amounted to witness tampering. >> as a result of those witness tampering allegations, manafort was actually remanded to prison in june. that's powerful evidence of what the prosecutors call consciousness of guilt. if you are trying to get witnesses to change testimony you are trying to hide something. >> because the charges stem from activity in virginia and washington. he faced separate trials in both virginia and the capitol. the first trial began. where the defendant sat before a jury of six women. and six men. >> paul manafort is a guy who has swagger. who understands how to

and so it is not going to be be able to make the mistake that they did with rick gates. the biggest issue for rick gates is that he plead guilty of obstruction of justice for lying to the the government in 2016 and 2017, and about his foreign lobbying, and about his u.s. lobby i lobbying on behalf of foreign country, and he tampered with witnesses, and he tried to get them to change their story. those are two very problematic things for a cooperating witn s witness, and he is going to be, and he is going to struggle on the krx with those twocross-exa >> and we are almost out of time, but talking about how far the mighty have fallen and basically paul manafort is giving up properties all over the place, right? >> yeah, a 10-bedroom mansion in the hamptons. i want to update you what has happened in the court, he has l alocuted, and what that means is did you agree to this and he said yes, he did. and so the question is if he is going to be coming out on bail. the judge has revoked the bail in related to the witness tampering charges and been in the jail cell sleeping, so i

the people this charge of running the inauguration were rick gates who has now pled guilty to multiplestified openly in court about all the way he helps paul manafort commit bank fraud. he was deputy chairman of the inaugural committee. he is described as the guy who actually ran it. the vice chairman of the finance committee was republican fund-raiser elliott brady who is now reportedly under justice department investigation. also on money laundering charges. so on the stand in the manafort trial, i have to tell you, rick gates testified under oath that he himself might have stolen money from the inaugural fund. he said he would have to check. he said under oath, it's possible. yeah, you know, i have to go back through my files. i might have stolen money from there, too. i don't remember. new guy, sam patten who today prosecutors said that he illegally facilitated the payment of a $50,000 donation from a ukrainian to the trump inauguration. of course, they are not illegally allowed to receive foreign money but patten has testified, has signed his name on court documents which say that

rick gates was not.omething that was hit on several times today in the discussion of this. and that that is significant what do you think? >> tmp tower meeting is incidentally the one thing that the public knows abmore than any other aspect because the senate judiciary interviewed i think five participants in the meeting and released the transcripts to the public. so we have donald trump jr.'s account of what went in there. we have rob goldstone, the guy who's e-mail started it all. the russians and the translator's account. we would have had manafort's account but he got charged ped he couldn't inter -- charged and he couldn't interview with the senate. is there a story that differs from the accounts we have been given by the participants in the meeting? maybe but it seems unlikely. >> martha: so when you take a step back and look at it so now paul manafort is cooperating. it got him a better deal than he would have gotten otherwise. now he doesn't have to go through a unlick -- public trial. and it's n

another reminder on top of the manafort conviction, michael flynn, rick gates, george papadopoulos that what the president calls a rigged witch-hunt continues to bear fruit, which may explain the president's tweet storm on the subject the last several days, his attack on the attorney general, and his threat which he restated on the stump last night. >> all i can say this, our justice department and our fbi at the top of it, because inside they have incredible people, but our justice department and our fbi have to start doing their job and doing it right and doing it now. because people are angry. people are angry. what's happening is a disgrace. and at some point i wanted to stay out, but at some point if it doesn't straighten out properly, i want them to do their job, he will get involved and i will get in there if i have to. >> the whole world gets it, he went on the say. keeping them honest, though, what the whole world gets seems to be something quite different than the message the president gives. 63% of respondents in a new abc/"washington post" survey support the mueller investig

. >> he need the services of rick gates. of course someone was a cooperator against him in the virginia trial. we have this section about how they conspired to talk about what they called the obama jews and tried to use them to try to infiltrate and lobo behalf of the cause. the first time, they belie the entire defense and he had nothing do with it was a min yon to rick gates. >> he was getting tens of millions of pro russian ukrainians. that is potentially significant as well. >> they never told anybody they were getting paid by ukraine. people who cooperated with them which were former heads of state. there is a lot of swamp in this. >> they cheated out of over $15 million in taxes. a lot more on the breaking news, but continuing breaking news in the carolinas. tell us what you are seeing and hearing. >> good afternoon to you, wolf. everyone who is watching. we are here in myrtle beach. this is a water maker. the rain eases up and we get more of a downpour. it has been going off and on here. this is still a category one,

rick gates was the deputy chairman who has pleaded guilty. michael flynn and then the national security adviser to the president of the united states, one of the most sensitive jobs pled guilty. george papadopoulos, the coffee boy pled guilty. two others not involved, but if you put paul manafort, four people hired by this president or his team and brought into the campaign have pled guilty to federal offenses. these cases by mueller so far have nothing to do with any misconduct by the president, but the meticulous nature, some of the charts that are included in this new filing today, you don't need to understand the charts, but manafort got away with the overseas transactions and moving money back and forth. if you can see the level of denail this information. the level of the forensics, criminal, digical work they have done. my question is if they have the cfo of the trump organization and they're looking at any other record involving the president's campaign or the president's business, that has to scare you. >> and keep in mind that many

rick gates has already started to work with the government with the moller investigation and maybe mahler investigation is getting a lot of information from his partner that they may not necessarily need more information from him this of course for paul man of ford who has already been convicted and will face up to ten years in jail means that he if he pleads guilty now and the judge accept that he can save a lot of money with his law team trying to fight all these things that he's being accused of if the count is reduced to two and that would also help president trump in some ways because it wouldn't be so much in the news anymore but as you say the kilt the number of charges has been reduced to two there were many charges in this surely the that he was still facing poll metaphor what can he all for what do you think he might have offered in order to get this deal. so we really don't know that at this moment the fact of the matter is that donald trump the us president has tweeted about this matter and has spoken to fox news and friends about the matter and has said that tall man of ford

manafort went to trial, his deputy rick gates testified against him. he has now confessed that rick gates was telling the truth. so manafort's position has changed. it may well be that what he told, what his lawyers told the trump lawyers is no longer operative. so the fact is it doesn't matter. >> of course he should be feeling nervous. but remember too what's changed is manafort's credibility. he's now admitted that he has lied repeatedly and therefore he is not the most useful eye or ear witness. he is very useful in providing investigators with self-corroborating information. but putting him on the stand would be risky because he's obviously admitted to being a liar and he's now made a deal but he could perhaps provide information that's self pruchbing. >> we're all trying to figure out why he's decided to come to this. his lawyer says this is a sad day for mr. manafort and his family, however, he wants to make sure he and his family can can live safely. what does that say to you? do you think he's being threatened or by whom? >> alan will know thi

remember, paul manafort when rick gates, his old business partner there, decided to cooperate, paul manafortound like it was something he would never do. how did mueller get him to do it? >> that's right. this seems to be the toughest nut to crack for mueller's team of prosecutors. we know that paul manafort had started to talk about a plea deal even during the alexandria trial in august. some of the things fell apart. he didn't want to cooperate all the way. a lot of things were on the table but they kept falling through. they finally got this one now because their legal team, manafort's legal team is reading the tea leaves, and especially when they looked back how the jury voted in alexandria. remember, we had the juror that came on and said there was one juror, one member of the 12 who held out on those ten charges, which shows it was actually an overwhelming amount of evidence. it is really the strength of mueller's case is on display here. another reason he held out for some long, my sources have said, is that he was one of the wealthiest defendants in this case. he actually had the mon

we have george papadopoulos, flynn, cohen, rick gates. now add manafort to that mix.ment he signed states he will testify fully, completely, truthfully before any and all grand juries at any and all trials of cases or other court proceedings in district of columbia and elsewhere. this is very broad. he now essentially has to talk to anybody anytime about anything it sounds like. scott, what does this mean for the president? >> well, we don't know exactly because manafort may have information that's germane to investigations that have nothing to do with the president, or he may have information germane to things going on with the central question of the inquiry of course, was there collusion with russia which is so far unproven, alleged but unproven. even bob woodward said he looked hard for two years, found no evidence of russian collusion. it would be difficult to speculate what manafort will do. obviously his choosing to cooperate must be worry some for the white house, but he was with the campaign a short period of time, connected to things that have nothing to do

and one of the reasons why he could wait until the last minute, because as compared to rick gates and george papadopoulous, paul manafort is far more wealthy that n those t other men, so he had the money to let this ride for a bit. he had the money to pay his advisers. what i think is so interesting, where the president of often remembers to the probe as a by ased politically driven witch hunt, you now have five former trump associates saying no, that is not the case.hunt, you now h trump associates saying no, that is not the case. we're actually guilty as charged. >> and as part of this agreement, he will forfeit some of the many properties that he owns, more than $4 million. you have a house in brooklyn, a house in the hamptons. going back to what happened yesterday, andrew weissmann going on for 25 minutes detailing all the information are that they had here on paul manafort. what is your sense of what paul manafort can offer at this point? >> david, this is so interesting to me because this plea deal didn't just crop odrop out of t of a sudden. it is as a result of conversations t

trump's campaign deputy, rick gates, as well as national security adviser michael flynn.for his personal attorney, michael cohen, he's also pleaded guilty to charges in new york. sara murray, cnn, washington. >> thank you very much. >>> julian zelizer with us, scholar at harvard. i want everybody to see what sara talked about. some of the people who not only have pleaded guilty or been found guilty but are cooperating now with special counsel mueller, we've got george papadopoulos, michael flynn, michael cohen, rick gates, all people here who have said i want cooperate. my question, moont seanafort se be the holdout, he was defiant through this whole thing. he wasn't going to do it. the fact that he has caved, has the plea deal, said i will tell you whatever you need to know even though up to this point, we need to be clear, has not been about russia per se. but what does this turnabout tell you about where mueller, the investigation stands, how much power mueller has right now? >> well, mueller's leverage is clearly pretty immense at this point. and he's now been able to

so we've seen that now with rick gates. we saw that with paul man trt.e saw that when michael cohen, his long time personal attorney and somewhat of a fixer pleaded guilty to eight counts in new york last week. we know at least at least in weeks to come that investigators may or may not be looking at what don junior has been involved in, jared kushner has been involved in. they're not just looking at these people for the fun of it but because they want to know what the president knew as well. this is not a tactic that you use because you want to just take down lower level people in the campaign like jogeorge papadopoulos. this is tactic you want to use when you get to the very top of the chain of command. >> and it's not manpert offense work with foreign governments was a secret. on the eve of the national republican convention two years ago, quote, manafort's problem after all those years on the lam with thugs and autocrats is that he can't recognize principle and integrity. he's brought great professionalism direct from kiev to trump world. and you may

remember that rick gates, who also is a cooperator for the government, of course, was in charge of the inauguration. so it's not a surprise that mueller and his team and various u.s. attorneys' offices are digging into that. you know, we've been hearing reporting that prior folks in charge of inaugurations have said that the trump inauguration raised something like double the money but had a quarter of the events and a third of the staff or something, so where did all that money go? those are questions that people have been asking. so i don't think it's a surprise they're digging into that a bit, especially with rick gates having cooperated. now we have samuel patten cooperating. who knows what he knows? i expect we'll see more about what happened around the inauguration, who donated to it, and where that money might have gone. >> rich, it's always interesting to me. we heard rudy giuliani a little while ago. every time there's a conviction or a guilty plea, rudy giuliani says, oh, this isn't a guilty plea by the president, so it's nothing. well, there's a whole lot of nothing pleading

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, went after rick gates' credibility and what we know of george papadopoulos this is a pretty fruitfulr a defense attorney to go. >> both great points from both of you. talking about cooperation, and it doesn't sound like we'll get a solid or definitive or consistent answer from rudy giuliani on that cooperation in terms of president trump and the mueller investigation. and so let's move on to bob woodward's book in the decision of whether or not to allow the president to have an interview and give testimony. an excerpt from the book basically said that the president -- and i'll read from it. saying that during the mock element -- excuse me, during a mock interview, what had happened is this, quote, the next 30 minutes were useless. the thing is a -- a hoax. trump reprised everything he had tweeted or said before. dowd could get nowhere. trump was raging, dowd worried if he been mueller that trump would have probably fired him on the spot. it was almost as if trump were asking why am i sitting here answering questions, i am the president of the united states. what do you make of that p

rick gates, the former deputy trump campaign chairman, pleading guilty.ident's former national security adviser, pleading guilty. george papadopolous, a campaign foreign policy adviser, pleading guilty. the president's long-time fixer personal attorney, michael cohen, pleading guilty in a separate case with the u.s. attorney in the southern district of new york. all of this does not bode well for the president. >> and the thing to watch is going to be how the president reacts to what happened with manafort today. atied fr aside from the white house saying it has nothing to do with us and the president did nothing wrong coming from his personal attorneys, at one point he said manafort was a good man and was standing strong and his poor family. i wonder how long it lasts because there are several people on the list, maybe not papadopolous, but cohen, he used to have nice things to say about him until it was clear that he was no longer there to be on team trump and it became more about team cohen. >> you know, jeffrey toobin, it is fair to say all of these i

so rick gates meet with the special counsel, tells them everything he knows, but no one sees that until's a trial. and that's why manafort got that information, and all of a sudden right at that time rudy giuliani's tune changed. but the thought that they are discussing the potential pardon for paul manafort or there are signals, there may not be a lot of legal recourse particularly if paul manafort is not cooperating against donald trump, and so donald trump is therefore not obviously and clearly pardoning someone who has incriminating information about him. but this is shocking and startling turn of events, if it is true that there is any discussion. and rudy giuliani's statement in a report today where he said that a guilty plea would not change the calculus for the president, a, means that they're thinking about it and perhaps thinking about it, and also, b, runs afoul of any rational reason that you would pardon someone if they're admitting their guilt. and let's not forget one more thing. tomorrow when manafort goes and enters a guilty plea, he has to admit to the crimes he's comm

now, as i calculate, rick gates guidelines, sort of the parameters of what he's looking at, david, ink he's looking at about four to six years. that is a real sentence. however, he cooperated, he's testified, and so he's going to get a reduction in sentence based on his cooperation. if that comes out to be about probation or something, then maybe that sort of turns the argument around and says, look, you're going to face a lot of time, but you have -- if you cooperate and tell the truth, you'll get a reduced sentence. manafort, he's going to go to the moon. i'm telling you, he faces 10, 12, maybe up to 15 years. which for him is a life sentence. that's why there's a lot of pressure on him, david, to cooperate and try to get a reduction as well. >> ken, let's spend some time on that pressure. we are into this period between the first trial that took place in virginia and the second one slated to begin soon in washington, d.c. from your reporting, what is the latest on those conversations, if any, between paul manafort, his legal team and bob mueller and his team? >> well, i actually d

so on the stand in the manafort trial, i have to tell you, rick gates testified under oath that he himself might have stolen money from the fund. maybe have to check. he literally said under oath, "it's possible." you know, i have to go back through my files. i might have stolen money from there, too. i don't remember. then there's the assertion that the new guy, sam patten who today pled guilty to operating illegally as a foreign agent in this country for a pro russia ukrainian party, today prosecutors said that he illegally facilitated the payment of a $50,000 donation from a ukrainian oligarching to the trump inauguration. of course, they are not illegally allowed to receive foreign money but patten has testified, has signed his name on court documents which say that's exactly what he did. it's all so freaking shady. the whole trump inauguration. and all the finances around it have been so blatantly shady from the very beginning. if this revelation in the sam patten plea today is a sign of more shoes to drop to do with the trump inauguration, now that prosecutors have named foreign mone

it's rick gates. it's george papadopoulos. all of these people proving time and time again that there really is no witch hunt as the president keeps attesting. it's another huge issue for the president. >> this trust issue. we know that the president's stewing, and that's the thing. when he stews, unforced errors like conspiracy theories and puerto rico's death toll happen. >> right. this is, again, the worry of many republican candidates. not only do they have to think about the -- they have the economic environment they want to cheer. they also have to think the fundamentals that are working against the republicans such as the president's approval rating and just the historic precedent for losses when the majority party is holding congress and the president is of the same party. they also have to worry about what's going to appear on their twitter feed next. one other note what's striking me here. right before the labor day weekend we were saying there's no way we're going to have any mueller news until -- >> we knew the tri

we now trump campaign aide, long-time manafort partner rick gates has been cooperating.tional security adviser michael flynn has been cooperating. former trump campaign foreign policy adviser george papadopoulos has been cooperating. i mean, when the president looks at this list and i would argue in the titles of most of these people on this list, how could he not be concerned? >> of course. these are key figures that the president well noepz can put together a narrative starting ten years ago with michael cohen and business relationships president trump was trying to build in vladimir putin's russia, trying to understand russia, trying to understand finances and construction and business development in russia. then going forward to folks like rick gates and paul manafort and michael flynn, who had firsthand experience in the politics of russia in how putin thinks, in what was going on between russia and ukraine. again, it's sort of a collection of people that could build into a narrative around russia. whether that gets to collusion, whether that gets to president trump

second of all, rick gates was a really bad witness for the government in virginia. they would like to avoid having to call him again, so avoiding this trial means they don't have to call him again, and we also learned in that virginia trial that rick gates likely has additional evidence and information about a completely unrelated investigation, which we can surmise is the russia collusion investigation. and the third thing is he's not going to get much more time even if he were to go to trial in d.c. than what he's already going to get in virginia. it's not going to be a situation, most likely, where whatever his sentence is in d.c. is added on to his sentence in virginia. >> help me understand that. let's say he gets ten in virginia and ten in d.c. most likely how does that work? concurre concurrent? >> so the question is whether they run concurrently or consecutively. my experience in situations like this is that the second sentencing judge usually runs the sentences partially concurrent, which means they partially overlap and partially consecuti consecutive. it

mind it's not necessarily clear that manage that molar actually metaphor because he already has rick gates who was pretty much central metaphors right hand man he's already flipped he said he's given all the evidence that he knows to the special counsel's office so. it doesn't necessarily mean it's bad news for president trump but again in an hour we'll find out if it's really bad news for the president or not a big deal at all all right thanks so much. now to syria where several demonstrations have been held to protest against the government one is in hammer where rebel positions have been targeted by government airstrikes the other is in neighboring india province the last remaining rebel stronghold in the country the protesters are angry at the government's plan to launch a massive military offensive to retake territory u.n. has repeatedly warned against the military assault saying it could only should manage very crisis on scene throughout syria seven and a whole new. three million people living it live most of them are civilians displaced by the conflict in other parts of the country.

look at what happened to his partner, rick gates. i can start enumerating millionaires and billionaires who find themselves caught up in the criminal justice system. i respectfully disagree. i think ours is a good system. if you have a state and local system, and by the way, yesterday was constitution day and mr. madison warned against the kind of phenomenon you're pointing to. in federalist 10, he said we need a vast, commercial this vast nation because of oppression will more likely occur at the local level. boss of loss called, -- that littlen community. that is what he warned about. if you do not think rich folks get chased after, i can tell you from my own personal expense you are quite wrong. host: james, democrat, virginia. good morning. guest: good morning, sir. am i on? host: what is your question for ken starr? guest: my question is, if he is saying that fairness and injustices are a true mirror of all things, and i think it is, that mr.ou citing kavanaugh is innocent of these accusations? i mean, the 65 people that are say

he has gone after paul manafort and rick gates for failing to file under the foreign agent administrationand to publicly disclose that their lobbyists were foreign entities. there is credible evidence brought to life by senator chuck grassley. fusion gps, at the same time it was compiling the dossier it was lobbying on behalf of russians to get rid of u.s. sanctions in the u.s. actions law. again, fusion would say that we were the working for u.s. law firm. it doesn't matter under the law, you still have to register if you are lobbying people on behalf of foreign entities. they never did. where's that prosecution? what about podesta? this is all been completely dry. podesta, prominent democrat, and this is what americans look at. it gets to the heart of the frustration. now that justice is being applied to people who have done wrong doings, it is only being applied to one side. >> steve: exactly right. you put it well. everyone should read your piece. talk about mind to the fbi. there is so much there. let's bring in tammy bruce now. tammy, you heard all of that, what chances do you think

of course, manafort, rick gates and his department, sam patton was another one who was filing money to trump essentially of russians interest and he was close to the russian intelligence agent who was close to paul manafort and to rig gates. i mean we hear this constant reframe from rudy giuliani, no collusion, no collusion, well, actually we see a lot of evidence of collusion. we have not seen the absolute proof presented yet because robert mueller is building his case methodically and he's not going to show his cards before he has to. the building blocks of collus n collusions are there along with the course of obstruction of justice which the president continues to commit in plain sight with his attempt to intimidate sessions and mueller and along with other crimes including the fact that trump's lawyer pleaded guilty to violating campaign laws of the direction of donald trump. the case against donald trump, these are small building blocks that we have seen. the overall case is getting very, very strong. >> in terms of patton, just to be clear. it is clear that samuel patton was ext

paul manafort guilty, rick gates, guilty, michael flynn, guilty, george papadopoulos guilty, michael guilty. they're telling everything they know presumably to federal prosecutors. it's got to get the white house very nervous. >> no question about it. i'm surprised we haven't seen the president weigh in. i'll give him some credit low bar for showing some strength while we have a natural disaster occurring just to the south of it in north carolina. it's very notable that donald trump came to washington and said he was going to drain the swamp, clean up washington. it seems that robert mueller is the one draining the swamp, so to speak, going both ways, if in fact the greg craig situation happens. when we talk about draining the swamp, when we talk about the institution of washington, d.c., it is ironic that it's robert mueller cleaning up. >> for a long time, there was always this talk that this was not something the department of justice really goes after. that seems to have changed, wolf, and i think anyone who has done any work with paul manafort is probably concerned. but it doesn

what the white house is doing is trying to turn ohr into rick gates to massage the jury pool or future jury pool for impeachment and say this guy is not credible because he was involved in this and he's dirty in some way. he is dirty in one way and he's not actually dirty. he is the man that hunted russian mafia figures that were money laundering dollars they had stolen from the liquidation of the soviet union into the u.s. real estate market. donald trump must be terrified of him and everything he has known. like everything that we already have discerned with the mueller probe is, this is going to be a document case. mueller is going to have 10,000 things on him. discrediting ohr is not going to work. >> you have the situation with pa page, there was. they had an affair and conducted parts of it on government phones. that was against protocol and the reason they were in trouble and everyone read their texts. the democrats in congress are accusing republicans of leaking things that -- or again, he didn't do anything wrong. the guy is accused republicaning between steel and ohr who are

his business partner rick gates is also cooperating, though it seems mike flynn's cooperation has concludedr will soon come to an end because his sentencing is now scheduled for december 18th after multiple delays. >> harris: another witness refusing to appear before congressional investigators. >> whose husband worked at the justice department and became a back channel for passing information to the fbi, has refused multiple requests to appear voluntarily between two house committees. oversight committees have spoken to numerous witnesses as part of a joint investigation into the actions taken by the justice department's during the clinton email and russia cases. as you know bruce ohr testified in late august about his relationship with the former british spy and author of the dossier and at that time refused to answer questions. >> were you acting alone or did you have authority from the justice department official? how did your wife benefit from the dossier contract? did you have a conflict of interest? >> the fbi's former top lawyer, general counsel james baker has refused to similar re

suggested, bret, he was trying to use legal defense funds to pay the legal bills for paul manafort and rick gates. he called it a cheat hit piece. bret? >> bret: kevin corke live in las vegas. we learned today that he deleted the release of key russian probe files pending an ig report. what's the thinking behind that, kevin? >> a couple of things. but most importantly, bret baie bret baier, some of these documents if released could seriously damage the russia probe itself. what the president is doing, he's asking for an expedited review for some of those documents. very interesting, he said he heard from one of our key allies asking the documents not be released. it's been widely speculated in washington and elsewhere that the key ally is the united kingdom. we'll keep an eye on that. more with you. >> bret: let's get deeper into that rosenstein response. here is correspondent peter doocy. what do you hear from the doj? >> this meeting with seven people boils down to a battle between rob rosenstein and andy mccaig. same anti-medicaid facing prosecution for lying to the fbi while he was the deputy

rick gates, manafort's foreimer deputy, was charged with seven crimes, pleaded to two of them.erating. doesn't mean manafort is, but it's an indicator. >> we should find out in minutes in court here. rudy giuliani yesterday told politico, there's no fear paul manafort will cooperate against the president. there's nothing to cooperate about. to that, you say? >> well, he's the president's lawyer. and he has every incentive to say that. robert mueller is also a very serious man, as you know. would he give a deal like this if he wasn't getting something in return? in terms of cooperation? there are a lot of circumstances where he would not. >> we'll be watching very closely. jim, thank you. i'll see you back here. >> see you monday. >> can't wait. we'll have a lot of news to cover. i want to get back to the breaking news. we're covering hurricane florence. we'll get back to anderson cooper in just a minute. oh, milk. another breakfast, another dilemma. am i willing to pay the price for loving you? you'll make my morning, but ruin my day. complicated relationship with milk? pour on

what the white house is doing is they are essentially trying to turn ohr into rick gates so that they can sort of massage the jury pool, the future jury pool for an impeachment and say, hey, this guy isn't credible because he was involved in this and he's dirty in some way. he's dirty in one way -- and he's not actually dirty -- he is the man that hunted russian mafia figures that were money laundering dollars that they had stolen from the liquidation of the soviet union into the u.s. real estate market. donald trump must be terrified of him and everything that he's known. but like everything we have discerned with the mueller probe, this is going to be a document case. mueller is going to have 10,000 things on him and discrediting ohr is not going to work. >> you have this situation now. with page and strzok, matt, to get back to your point, there's no accusation of wrongdoing. with page and strzok there was. they had an affair, they conducted parts of it on government phones; that was against protocol, it was the reason they were in trouble and everyone read their texts. in this cas

that when dowd was here working for president trump, he inquired about whether paul manafort and rick gates white house legal defense fund, a fund set up to help those involved with the special counsel prop. manafort was once president trump's campaign chairman. gates was just underneath manafort. both have since plead guilty or convicted of financial crimes unrelated to the trump campaign. in a statement received by dowd, he said he was one of many lawyers that tried to ascertain what exactly would have access to this money and he denies any wrong doing. he said "i knew i had no control of those funds and never tried to divert those funds. i only ever inquired whether possible to include manafort and was told it was not for the reasons stated. there was no drama, end of story". the journal reports that dowd had pledged to contribute $25,000 to that fund to which dowd says of that, "i received good advice to not contribute and took the advice. i did not contribute $25,000 to his fund as suggested. again, no drama." dowd we should point out is no longer a member of the president's legal team

rick gates runs the operation and they take in record amounts of money and don't seem to have spent it a whole problem. but in general, we are now zeroing in on the money people who are closest to trump. so that's big. >> guys, thanks very much for your company tonight. david, stick around because i have another comment to talk to get your analysis on after this break. >>> trade negotiations between the united states and canada have broken off after remarks by president trump emerged in a canadian newspaper. >>> a new documentary out today lays out all of the connections between team trump and oligarchs, mobsters and putin allies going back decades. the director joins us. but first here is a preview of "active measures". >>> president trump, just now president putin denied having anything to do with the election interference in 2016. every u.s. intelligence agency concluded that russia did. my first question for you,sy, is who do you believe? >> putin has worked to undermine democracies across the globe. >> he made his way up through the kgb. >> he learned how to maneuver politically.

chairman, manafort's campaign deputy rick gates and former national security adviser michael flynn. as for trump's former personal attorney, michael cohen, he is also pleaded guilty to charges in new york. sara murray, cnn, washington. >> thanks to sara murray. we now turn back to our special coverage of tropical storm florence. >>> i'm erica hill live in myrtle beach, south carolina, where the winds and rains continue and the ocean behind me has been churning far more than when we first got here 24 hours ago. we're waiting on high tide here in the next hour. that is important as we know. the governor of south carolina lifting evacuation orders for a number of counties including the area around charleston. we're still waiting on more news for here in myrtle beach. what we do know at this hour, five deaths now officially related to this storm. the governor of north carolina just a short time ago talking about in his words the epic amounts of rainfall. and that is true. in the state of north carolina, statewide record for rainfall has been broken. 30.5-plus inches of rain in the town

for the white house and their officials and campaign aides to the lawyers for paul manafort and rick gatest the time, the pair had pleaded not guilty to charges of tax, bank and lobbying violations in the fall of 2017 the idea was rebuffed by ethics advisors in the white house. dowd wrote that manafort and gates needed funds immediately and that he planned to donate $25,000 to manafort's legal defense fund the next day. the next day, manafort agreed to plead guilty and cooperate dowd says he never tried to divert funds and only inquired whether it was possible to include manafort among staff members that needed help the "new york times" reported that dowd raised the prospect of pardons for michael flynn and paul manafort. >>> ct macfarland has revised her initial statement. she previously served as advisor to michael flynn and was a close ally of his. back in the summer of 2017, she told investigators that she never talked with flynn regarding his meeting with sergei kiy kislyak. when she spoke with flynn in late december of 2016, a general statement made to her that things are going okay

i mean think about it, now you have michael cohen, george papadopoulos, michael flynn, rick gates andreached plea deals with robert mueller, and manafort himself has of course been convicted on eight counts. i think it shows what an immovable force mueller is, how he's close 'ing. and think about who's left, donald trump, jr., roger stone, and donald trump himself. so i think we're seeing maybe the beginning of the mueller deal and he's closing in on the oval office. >> you're no stranger to the treacherous terrain that is washington, and when we look at what we saw on friday, it says an awful lot about how crooked some of those relationships can be when it comes to lobbying, when it comes to information and disinformation. what happens as a result of this to the lobbying industry in washington, d.c.? >> well, i would hope there would be some correction, of course, david. it is sad to see how you walk into washington with a little bit of money, you can get things done. you walk into washington with as much money as paul manafort has from these russian oligarchs and he was even able to

buckling, for not giving in, for not cutting any kind of deal when his former business partner rick gates turned that deal. turned on paul manafort. he made a suggestion he found to be honorable course. do we know what brought it about? what did mueller say to him to bring this about? >> we don't know for sure. that conversation would be extremely closely held. one thing we can safely assume could be part of the calculus here is just the financial strain of going through this kind of protracted federal investigation. manafort was facing the potential loss of a host of his properties, a host of money he has this bank accounts. the automatic substantial expenses there as well as the coa cost of legal fies. hiring legal attorneys through protracted federal trials is really expensive. people in manafort's inner circle have been saying this process of being federally prosecuted is financially onerous to him. h it's hard to see how he would get financial resources. safe to say a significant part was just the financial burden of having to pay for lawyers to represent him through a second trial.

the special counsel has not made the decision about collusion, it's investigated paul manafort, rick gatese papadopoulos, a lawyer, and it's brought criminal indictments against more than a dozen russian people and companies. president trump has not responded to manafort's plea deal on twitter. but today that might change. >> certainly. sara westwood, thank you very much for walking us through it. >>> errol lewis, political commentator and anchor for spectrum news with us now, as well as joey jackson, cnn legal analyst and criminal defense attorney. gentlemen, thank you for getting up so early for us. >> good morning. >> joey, i want to go to you first and read something from this cooperation agreement specifically. it seems so incredibly broad. this is what manafort signed -- your client shall testify fully, completely, and truthfully before any and all grand juries in the district of columbia and elsewhere, and at any and all trials of cases or other court proceedings in the district of columbia and elsewhere. it seems like there are no boundaries on this thing. can you compare this plea

manafort were all working together along with rick gates in order to illegally lobby on behalf of the ukrainian government and actually malign ukrainian political actors that were seen opposed to the pro-putin government at that time. >> thank you. >> thanks for having me. jon: florence claiming the lives of at least 15 people now as that storm continues to crawl across the carolinas pummelling the low-lying region with relentless rain causing catastrophic flooding. forecasters now warning the worst is yet to come. with evacuations still underway in some areas, north carolina senator tom tillis is urging people not to take chances. we have fox team coverage of florence's impact across north carolina. steve herrigan is in north carolina. first we go to leland vittert in north carolina. >> we'd like to tell you how much water is in this city, but we can't because the monitoring system for flooding was overwhelmed by the rising river levels and the water is still on the rise. video from a few minutes ago as the boys from fort bragg, the 82nd airborne came in with their high water trucks