back to you, rick hasen. w wiare trying to understand here whether laws might he been broken or not. so as somebody who understands election law, what more information do you need to know? you mentioned a minute ago edtive. what more do you o know to understand whether the law was violated or not? >> well, so once we know when trump knew what he knew, if it cas during the campaign period or even now e he's running the 2020 campaign, the main queson is going to be was this iampaign related, and that's a motive que. this came up in the john edwards prosecion, senator john edwards also receiving payments for a mistress and he argued they were persoal, not campaign related. how do you get evidence of motive? you can infer it from the timing toming just before the election, but there mi well be communications between trump and cohen or communatns with others which would indicate the payments were made to stop daniels from going on tv just before the election. if that evidence is in what the u.s. attorneys ged, tha