but take a listen to more from former speaker newt gingrich, in doing what rick hertzburg was doing,f the best things you could say about someone. take a listen. >> posted my statement on her facebook page and was amazed at some of the intensity, some of whom came back three and four and five times, repeating how angry they were. so i wrote my newsletter on friday, basically entitled it, "what would you have done." >> and he goes on to talk about what the legacy of mandela is being a revolutionary and freedom fighter and also a patriot. how do you looking at this now, national/international conversation, how do you think we're doing in remembering our history accurately with apartheid as a foreign policy issue for the united states? >> it seems to me that we seem to forget apartheid in our own country. i was jailed for using the public library. i was jailed for trying to use -- my father -- lots of p.o.w.s didn't have the right to use toilets, hotels, motels. we couldn't use a toilet from texas to florida to maryland. we didn't have the right to vote. and so dr. king's victory was ov

hen rick hertzburg, senior editor of "the new yorker."s this marketing campaign, pr push, whatever you want to call it, exactly what obama care needs or has this already been defined largely by the republicans and by the problems with the website? >> it's actually what health care reform has always needed, and the president has never really got his arms around. so if you look at the polling, it's easily distorted. people say all the time it's been really unpopular. in fact there's never been a clear majority on this question. through the years the numbers have stayed very fixed. people are really unsure what it represents. and if you frame it as obama care, people don't like obama's association with it. but if you frame it in terms of affordable care, the technical name of this law, they like it. they like all the elements of it. so there is a lot for the president and the administration to communicate here. they have not done a good job today and they have to get people to understand what they're trying to sign up for now. >> yeah, the r