. >> and found a business card, it was detective rick jackson lapd robbery homicide unit. >> robberydeal. >> i guess that is the tip of the spear, if you will. and, it made me interested. >> so interested, he called detective jackson, -- >> he says you know a guy named duncan martinez? >> i said yes i know a guy called duncan martinez. >> i said is there anything i can help you with? >> i immediately went to, we can use this, we need to get it on tape. >> use this? this was the excuse duncan had given the police for the burglary. >> he said, i only did this because somebody is extorting me as i witnessed somebody get murdered in los angeles, and this person that i know told me if i didn't do this burglary for him, then he was going to tell the police that he knew about my involvement in this l. a. thing. >> wow. >> everything is done, we can't use what he told us initially against him. >> what is against the rules? >> bingo, all duncan's blabbing just might be his undoing. remember, under the conditions of his king for a deal, dunkin'couldn't talk to anybody about the case. >> he was