johnson. >>> by me now is pastor rick warren and his wife kay. stage whether you should have done more as rick warren, america's pastor, about this issue of mental health before matthew took his life? >> piers, we have always known since matthew always lived his life with the illness, one day we would be spokespeople for mental illness. we've known this for years and years. the reason we were quiet was primarily to protect his dignity. it was his story to tell. we were praying either, a, he would be healed miraculously, or b, we would get treatment, management, to help manage his disease for the rest of his life and he can tell his story. the only reason we have held back from being a public figure on this was his own dignity. after he died, that issue was gone. >> we didn't want him to endure the scrutiny that was thrown at rick. he was already in the spotlight. >> he didn't need that. >> he didn't need that. >> how would you like him to be remembered, kay? >> oh, my funny, quirky, ridiculously silly, deeply compassionate, had such a sense of ju