kerry. fox news sunday, guests include paul ryan and larry pratt, executive director of the group gun owners of america. cnn "state of the union" follows that rick-- follows at 3:00 p.m., john mccain and peter ortzag. ce thethe nation" -- "fa nation" with john mccain and dick durbin during the sunday network tv talk shows are on c- span radio, and they are brought to have a public service, provided by the networks and c- span. again, those rebroadcasts of the shows begin at noon eastern with abc's"meet the press," "this week" anaphoric lucky said, "face the nation" from cbs -- and at 4:00, "face the nation." find us on channel 120. you can download our free app for your smart phone or listen online at c-spanradio.org. >> the other thing we do to test whether roosevelt made a difference or not is use my counterfactual test. suppose a plausible alternative had been present. not wendell wilkie, who is the moderate provoke and -- republican rickets roosevelt in 1940, but suppose the nominee -- suppose the republican had nominated charles lindbergh, a great aviation hero it was very isolationist and quite synthetic to hitler's germany. lindbergh pres