so rick perry, these are the people who rick perry is trying to crawl out of bed with. right now, in time for him to run for president. not as a rick santorum candidate, sort of a religious right also ran. but as a real contender. do you think he has a chance to be a real contender? >> well, i do think he has a chance to be a real contender because he has been governor of texas for years and years, and it's a big state. it's got lots of money. the state hasn't completely crumbled, since he's been governor. that's quite a base to run from. and as a certain george w. bush proved a few years ago. so i think he immediately -- plus, you know, what do republicans think about the field they have right now? they're not thrilled. >> with the george w. bush reference you just made, i have to ask you, we talked a couple of nights on the show about douglas fife, famously denounced by lawrence wilkerson, i think he said seldom in my life have i met a dumber man. all these people who served in the bush administration blame douglas fife for everything. rick perry called douglas fife an

rick perry jogs with a laser sighted pistol strapped to his arm. (laughter) in texas, guns are also mp3 players. (laughter) now, when questioned about killing the coyote, perry had a rock-solid explanation. "either me or the dog were in imminent danger. i did the appropriate thing and sent it to where coyotes go." (laughter) which i assume was into a canyon wearing rocket skates. and perry even told the "des moines register" "i'm getting more and more comfortable everyday that this is what i've been called to do." sadly, yesterday the governor backed off the claim that god was calling him to run saying "there's a lot of different ways to be called. my mother may call me for dinn dinner." (laughter) exactly! exactly! maybe he's just been called for dinner by his mom! wait! what's that on his grilled cheese sandwich? jesus! (laughter and applause) oh, please. oh, please, lord, please send rick a sign. perhaps like you showed noah, send rick a rainbow. no, wait, that's kind of gay. (laughter) you know what? just send him cash, he'll take it from there.

obama promised the one time the just the one time democrat who turned republican texas governor rick perry is seeing a familiar political tune he's claiming that god talks to him he appeared on fox news and he calls himself a prophet invoking the name of god and perry claims that god is leading his successes in texas he feels called to run for president but doesn't want to announce his candidacy yet adam why is that. basically governor perry is talking tough religion perry has walked into some radical churches such as john haggis and claims we should not elect pagans anymore like obama and perry also wants to establish a christian nation. does that sound familiar to you remember the last man from texas claim he was called yeah that was george bush over no matter all the christian knees perry's record isn't all sweetness and light texas has high job growth rate but it has some of the lowest high school graduation rates and the highest poverty rates in the country in other words this one folks rick perry wants you to move to texas and get a job that pays you peanuts and he doesn't want you t

though, the people here in austin were still unaffiliated and looking to somebody like rick perry. one of the things that perry heard as part of this gathering, a really blue chip republican bundler money guys, is that he's got a problem, not in texas where he can raise $4, $5, $12, $20 million easily, but in places like new york city and wall street where some of the big money in this key place of republican fundraising isn't convinced yet that whether they are put off by the secessionist talk and his religious affiliations or the suggestion he is the tea party candidate who would not compromise. wall street doesn't like this no compromise approach, i don't know. but i know that perry has been given word that he's got a weakness in this very key money source and he's going to have to take steps if he hopes to raise the kind of money he would need from wall street, new york, and the traditional business republican establishment. >> which means we should probably look out for a rick perry speech to the big traditional republican think tanks to the chamber of commerce, to the commerce

yes, in another even surer sign that governor rick perry of texas is going to run for president, it wasd to the conservative website the national review online that governor perry met last week with a foreign policy team of advisers, including douglas f feifh. rick perry wants to be seen as someone learning foreign policy, also as being seen someone trying to learn foreign policy from the bush administration. >>> today is the day that major potential fund-raisers not yet committed to other presidential candidates met in austin, texas to see if they could rally around and support rick perry. the meeting convened by a former major bunld bundler for george w. bush. the governor didn't meet with them but would have dinner with them in austin. before that, he spoke at a bill signing in texas and made clear if he is running for national office, he is not running to be second on the ticket. >> i think you kind of go vice president, president, governor of texas, john nance garner had a pretty good handle on that. >> he says he had a good handle it. his handle was that the vice president see was

i want to move to rick perry. the other surprise on our poll is that rick perry is also in double digits and he's not even announced. we're learning more yesterday. here's what he said the latest what i'm calling rick perry watch day 300. we don't have it. here's what he said. i've been getting calls across the country, iowa, florida, new hampshire, the calling aspect of this is the stand point of people letting me know they're going to be there has been overwhelming. rick perry, is that somebody you think is going to be a player in this race. instincti cynthia? >> i think he could rise near the top of the polls very quickly. it says much more about the unsettled state of the republican field that so many republican operatives and major players are not satisfied and again, it says something about mitt romney at this point, that so many major republican players aren't satisfied with him as the nominee apparent. >> david, the texas tribune is doing only political junkies would love. here's one that features rick per

but texas governor rick perry went ahead with it. the man was killed tonight, despite the fact that governor perry could have stopped it. and that combined with mr. perry's evident presidential aspirations puts this issue right back in the fray of national politics. at a time when the death penalty is quite frankly already in chaos. state's ability to kill their prisoners is more in chaos and in jeopardy than it has ever been during the course of my lifetime. the primary way that states kill prisoners is lethal injection. drugs vary slightly from state to state, but almost all of them used to use a combination of a drug made by an illinois company called hospira. but when it moved to italy in 2009, they stopped making the lethal injection drug. it was a tiny part of their business, and they decided making it was no longer worth their time or trouble. it became trouble to make it once they moved to italy because you know what italians hate? italians really hate the death penalty. the decision to stop manufacturing this drug created a s

governors across america to join him for a religious rally the freedom from religion foundation showed rick perry perry a lawsuit arguing that this religious rally by a lights the first amendment's establishment clause course rick perry is also the guy who advised texans to pray for rain and it actually got drier so he's no stranger to injecting religion in the policy to the freedom from religion foundation for standing up to the session and happy well for the bad. sarah pailin earlier this year palin came under criticism for her gun rhetoric or lock and load rhetoric following the shooting of congresswoman gabby giffords well a few months later pale and. hasn't learned her lesson appearing on where else but so called news paling weighed in on the debt limit ago she asians with this. we cannot default but we have to we cannot afford to retreat right now either now is not the time to retreat if the time to reload we reload with reality by giving facts the numbers to the american public so that those of us across the us can start chinee man and letting our representatives know that we will not capi

let me say this about rick perry.ave going for him more than anything, first of all, he has executive experience. now the longest serving governor. he has the tea party appeal. appeal to social conservatives. he also has establishment appeal. aside from the bush foengs who don't like him. set one guy who brings it all together. nobody else brings it together like that. that's why rick perry las a real shot despite the fact that karl rove -- >> he is unique. set only one i think is running for president of a union. thanks for a great panel discussion. >> thanks. >> thank you. >> ahead, is there an orchestrated campaign to ban affirmative action in america? our next guest, ward connolly, is leading person in that charge. but what does the right wing and their money have do with that? that's next. ♪ [ male announcer ] what is the future of fuel? the debate is over. ♪ lexus hybrid drive technology is designed to optimize any fuel source on the planet. even those we don't use yet. because when you pursue perfection, you do

i don't know if rick perry was called or not.w is that republican party needs divine intervention to get there primary field in shape. they should have this golden opportunity to go after the president in this weak economy but they don't have quite the perfect candidate. a lot of people are hoping rick perry is that. he is unknown in the same way that maybe it was chris christie. but of course, when you get into it and once rick perry enters the race, yeah, they will talk about succession and all that in texas during his many years. there is a long record. longest serving governor. a lot of things to unpack there. he looks very attractive because nobody's done that due diligence. >> now, dr. dyson, governor perry also called a prayer meeting of conservative clergymen and saying we must pray for america. you think he is going to go for the christian right vote that we saw from the moral majority and rallying around george bush on certain moral and private morality issues? is that the base he will go for? >> i think so reverend sha

when we were speaking outside san antonio a few years back you talked about this streak to rick perrylt what was sort of uniting the opposition to him. how has he run the state of texas? in whose best interest has the state of texas been run while perry was governor? >> fair to say that rick perry is truly a special interest governor. that's who he's serving, it's not we the people of texas. you can trace it. look at the hpv vaccine, he passed an order that would mandate an hpv vaccine for all 6th grade girls in texas, and he did it for $6,000 campaign check from the drug company, merk. the lobbyist turned around, worked for rick perry at one time, and then got the trans-texas corridor rights granted to his former employer. the revolving door is clear on a bunch of issues, not just on the trans-texas corridor, that just is one that started our grass roots group. he's got more corporate welfare slush funds than i can counted. i mean, we have all kinds of money to increase perry's corporate slush funds, but not enough money to fund government, as you were talking about in our -- in your

rick perry could get in.es, he'll do it smart, won't do what newt did, smashing paul ryan's plan on the way in. >> i like rick perry. >> a guy who ran for president, came in after labor day, and won? the short answer -- never. >> now, you can raise a lot of money online. somebody could get in mid, late september, even october 1st. if rick perry gets in, it instantly becomes a two-man race between romney and rick perry. rick perry has an enormous economic success story to tell in texas. nearly 40% of all the jobs created once the recession formally ended happened in texas. no state income tax. little regulatory burden in texas, a perfect counter point to barack obama, in addition to the fact unlike romney he's plugged in -- >> the only role i have on this show is to be the crazy uncle in the basement. >> got it. >> and because i know something about presidential politics. please, when it gets to this, you're too smart to analyze things that way. >> he's not getting. >> ? >> he won't be able to get in on the ba

time reports those three men think perry has a better chance of the nomination than rick santorum and seem to be ignoring michele bachmann's momentum. perhaps perry's religious megarally set for next month has something to do it. >> i hope you'll join me on august 6th and take your place in reliant stadium with praying people asking for god's forgiveness. >> perry is no slam dunk candidate. a non-partisan study group says perry used accounting tricks to hide a $18.3 billion deficit. in order to close the massive short fall, perry went to enron-style accounting, for instance, the state delayed a payment to schools by one day, the budget also predicts a flat increase in the number of school children in the state, even though texas is one of the fastest-growing states in the country. and even more audacious, the legislators instructed the state's accountants to increase their projection of future property increases so as to predict a full $800 million in more property tax revenue, and that's just on the one budget. as for perry's so-called conservative stance, let me bring in someone fam

would endorse rick perry if he did. alked to number of folks and a percentage of them are favorable to a perry candidacy. he can win. it's that simple. for all the media excitement about sarah palin or chris christie, hello, george pitaki, i don't know, the speculation of anybody else, it looks like the one to watch is rick perry making it all the more amazing that he is going ahead with the stadium prayer event in a couple of weeks with these guys. >> president barack obama nurtures this hatred for the united states of america and i believe a hatred for the white man. >> if rick perry with events with guys like that gets the establishment support it is amazing to see how they deal with what's today being reported in texas papers. what's being reported is that late last month rick perry said this at a meeting with east texas business leaders. he said, quote, at 27 years old

rick perry does. he hurt someone like a tim pawlenty who has failed to gain traction in general but really, if you have rick perry, what are you doing at tim pawlenty for. michele bachmann. >> bill: i was going to say have you got to assume michele bachmann lock up tea party vote in iowa and new hampshire as well. >> what happens if rick perry is in. i think rick perry could drain support for him as well. >> i think is he a interesting candidate. there have been people who feel like there has been a gap there does bridging the gam between the more traditional republican group such as business interest and that sort of thing. business establishment and the tea party. he has got a message about jobs. fairly short in texas about nine months bolstered by energy privacies of course but also bolstered by the fact that a bunch of jobs were coming there from other states where things were back such as california. they have been adding jobs 30 to 40% of the jobs added in the last year and a half. that is the m

who rick perry is.tes are thinking about running we tend to look at the highlights of their records. if you were sitting here today, what would his greatest liability be? if a critic gets traction in the republican primary, how is a critic going to come after rick perry. >> well, i think i would come after perry i would say what about this $23 billion deficit, plus, in texas. he likes to tout the economic miracle but there's quite a few people that disagree substantially with that. and there's issues of education and health care. >> if i were a democrat, i would try to -- his claim to fame for republicans is that half of the jobs created in this recovery have been in texas. the democrats need to go after that. if i was a republican, i would go after the hpv vaccine fiasco where he tried to get 12-year-old girls to take mandatory hpv vaccines and were some issues with that. >> i'll watch this as it plays out. >> mimi and eric, thanks for being here. >>> coming up a 360 follow on the controversial law enf

has been -- until he actually says yes, he's not a yes. >> here's rudy giuliani, who by the way, rick perryor to support him. here's what rudy giuliani had to say about perry. >> i'm going to campaign for a republican candidate for president, whether it's one of the people in the field, myself or maybe somebody new that comes into the field of which there are one or two that are pretty darn impressive. rick perry is not in yet. rick has got a great record. probably one of the strongest records of any governor in america. >> that's a pretty good endorsement from rudy giuliani, and it would certainly cut down on some of this idea if you're rick perry to tout that giuliani is on board with him the idea that he's too conservative to be elected president. >> sure. i don't see anything discouraging rick perry at this moment, especially when you look at the fund-raising that -- the report that came in over the last week. no one is raising that much money, with the exception of mitt romney, who is also at a tremendous disadvantage against the president. so i see it wide open for him. >> jeff, one o

rick perry did better. rick perry has a good economy in texas.ople say she creates low-income jobs but they're doing better than the rest of the country and he will take momentum away from bachmann and romney. he could be a bridge between the tea party republicans and establishment republicans. he would be a big player if he gets in. >> bret: his record, though, in texas is getting scrutinized. the state budget has grown faster than inflation and population growth and the spending has grown faster than his predecessor george w. bush. rick, if he gets in, if he is as expected gets in, what does it do to the iowa race? conventional wisdom is congresswoman michele bachmann is positioned well right now. >> it makes things interesting. ames is critical for a lot of candidates and it would become critical for perry even if he is not a candidate. he needs springboard to come in saying look, without lifting a finger this is what i did. that is the boost that goes, to his back as he moves ahead. it throws iowa in contention. >> bret: iowa is big for other

rick perry, called for a prayer for deliver re deliver ens pp deliverance. r groups have been stepping up to support it. now it looks like perry is not sure what he will even be doing there. yesterday he told a reporter quote, i'm going to be there, i may be ushering for all i know. >> i think it is great he is doing this. it is is making the left crazy that he is praying. if they want to prayer they can. if they don't want to, they don't have to. i don't know why the left is going crazy about this. >> i don't know if they are going crazy in the prayer. some of us pray everyday all day without ceasing. i think that some are raising some of the people that are involved. for example, jamaal, i wassi looking at governor perry's site and a name that is alarming to me and an endorser of the prayer meeting, i don't know if he will be there but he is an endorser. he is a guy that became very well known for a scene like this. look at mr. shank in one of thinks great public appearances. he is walking up to bill clinton in 1992, giving him a fetus. now, this is the guy

when you look at rick perry, you have a field that is out there and then a rick perry that might get who do you worry about the most? >> well, first of all, with rick perry, i think that there are a lot of americans that understand that language. i don't know that that is necessarily a liability for him. i think that a bigger liability is that as democrats we expect the proposal coming out in 2012 are going to look a lot like the policies of the bush era. it would be too much to ask almost for the messenger of those policies would be another governor from texas. >> sounds very similar. >> who sounds irly similar. >> there is going to be a lot of attention to social issues. there's less of a line between fiscal and social conservatives. >> this has been a field day, for the most part so far, unless there are questions, for the most part, some of the appeals to evangelicals and male pieces that they are, they are talking about the economy and they are talking about jobs and the deficit. rudy giuliani, who may run again, i tend to think not, he's flirting with it. listen to him talking

who rick perry is.tes are thinking about running we tend to look at the highlights of their records. if you were sitting here today, what would his greatest liability be? if a critic gets traction in the republican primary, how is a critic going to come after rick perry. >> well, i think i would come after perry i would say what about this $23 billion deficit, plus, in texas. he likes to tout the economic miracle but there's quite a few people that disagree substantially with that. and there's issues of education and health care. >> if i were a democrat, i would try to -- his claim to fame for republicans is that half of the jobs created in this recovery have been in texas. the democrats need to go after that. if i was a republican, i would go after the hpv vaccine fiasco where he tried to get 12-year-old girls to take mandatory hpv vaccines and were some issues with that. >> i'll watch this as it plays out. >> mimi and eric, thanks for being here. >>> coming up a 360 follow on the controversial law enf

a lot of weasel words. >> we've seen a lot of texas -- we've seen a lot of texas two step from rick perryr the last several weeks. it does seem to me that the gist of movement by his operatives and by perry himself is that warm increasingly to the idea of this campaign. by the way it's 100 in iowa. it's very warm for everybody. the thing that rick perry would bring to the race say against michele bachmann is having been elected multiple times as governor of texas he can boast more of an establishment veneer and say i've run a big state unlike michele bachmann who just had a record in congress. that's the way that he can potentially jump over here and get the tea party and economic confers as well. >> great having you, john harwood. thanks so much. see you tomorrow. >>> what political story will be making headlines in the next 24 hours, that's next right here. >>> and tomorrow we're taking the show to capitol hill with the latest on the debt talks that's tomorrow 1:00 eastern only on "andrea mitchell reports". cutting the social security and medicare benefits we worked for. with billions i

with michele bachmann and rick perry, you don't have to guess. so the tea party republicans, who want a tea party republican candidates will have a choice. romney has a hard time appealing. >> a couple days ago he wasn't sure whether he made the economy worse than he -- he got it when he was handed it, and now he's herbert hoover? excuse me. herbert hoover created the great depression on his watch. owe didn't just inherit it from somebody else. this guy, obama, the worst thing you can say is he i inherited and hasn't been able to fix it. >> it's not worse than when he got it, todd. >> just keep throwing language around like hoover. >>> up next, the former klan leader, he's back. i don't know how many facelifts he's had. he's running for the white house again. he got about 1% last time. he's running, by the way, in many republican party, i believe. you're watching "hardball," only on msnbc. sam higgins? you have frequent heartburn, right? yeah. well we're the two active ingredients in zegerid otc. i'm omeprazole. and i'm sodium bicarbonate. just o

you know, rick perry is a super texan. and everything about him shouts texas.t's not clear that people are ready to go back to that right now. >> we shall see because he's still undecided. jonathan, jim, thanks for joining me today. i appreciate it. >>> so illinois launching a major effort to battle child porn, and at the center of it is a new technology that makes it much harder for predators to hide their tracks online. we're going to talk with the woman who is behind this big push. >>> and if you still have a knot in your stomach from yesterday's world cup finals game between the women of the u.s. and the women of japan, you are not alone. we're going to bring you the full heart-breaking, nail-biting highlights live from germany. you name it. i've tried it. but nothing's helped me beat my back pain. then i tried this. it's salonpas. this is the relief i've been looking for. salonpas has 2 powerful pain fighting ingredients that work for up to 12 hours. and my pharmacist told me it's the only otc pain patch approved for sale using the same rigorous clinical t

rick perry it myself and a man by the name of jeb bush. rick and i do have one important difference. i was accepted into the university of texas. he had to go to texas a&m. [laughter] rick perry has built a strong and consistent record as a conservative during his 11 years as governor of texas. he is a leader in emphasizing the role of states in our federal system. he has frequently taken on the federal government also overreaching into our areas of state primacy. a strong fiscal conservative. he vetoed more than $3 billion in budgeted items and cut taxes tax rates for everybody. whether it is taking on the trial lawyers or the teachers unions, rick perry has shown himself time after time to be not afraid to use his political capital for the good of the people. texas leads the country in terms of job growth, economic growth in no small part due to rick perry's of 11 years as the governor of the great state of texas. it is my pleasure this evening to introduce my friend, the governor of the second-best day in the union. rick perry. give him

rick perry is a fraud and he can't win home.o rick perry has not officially announced he is running for president, but as we pointed out, many believe he could perhaps use some of the successes that he is claiming exists in the state of texas if he does plan to run. join the "newsnation" on dot-com as well as twitter and facebook. and secretary of treasury tim geithner says now is the time to get a deal done. >> and now firefighters in washington, d.c. has an extra duty, fighting crime. it has ems crews in high crime neighborhoods, because several members of the summer youth program were mugged. firefighters are supposed to radio for police if they see something suspicious, and the d.c. deputy mayor saying it is a preventative measure. >> it is to prevent things from bubbling up. the idea is that if you have a fire apparatus engine with adults there, no one is going to commit a crime. >> but the d.c. police and fire unions are outraged calling this unsafe. >> i think it is a disaster. you are putting untrained, unsupervised fire

the go ahead to execute a mexican citizen that's actually rick perry the case of whom barrett so they al garcia convicted of rape and murder are both domestic and international criticism and it was learned the texas police had denied garcia his right to contact the mexican consulate the embassy before being arrested. or upon being arrested according to the vienna convention which president nixon signed and our senate ratified any person arrested in any nation where they are not a citizen has the right to comment contact their embassy and in the case of america garcia that right was ignored by the police in texas because of that tree a u.n. tribunal order to stay of execution a number of legal and foreign policy experts advise against the execution of president obama raised concerns over the execution and even george w. bush pushed for a stay of execution senator patrick leahy introduced legislation to force texas to put off the execution and recognize our international obligations under the vienna convention perry ignored all of it though and it came down to a last ditch effort in the

texas governor rick perry is the guy we're talking about. he's holding off on announcing and official white house bid but telling one newspaper just this weekend that running for the republican nomination may be his calling. perry getting to support in a recent quinnipiac poll. voters saying they would vote for him if a primary was held today. editor of the rottenburg political report is joining us, stewart rothenberg. if you read the tea least what is he saying here. >> they think he's going to run. he's given every indication he's going to run. until he announces he's not a race. we all expect him to be a candidate. jon: here is what you wrote about a month ago or so in june, you wrote he looks the part of a politician, even down to his hair. he gets a lot of attention for his hair, doesn't he? >> he does. but hair aside, he's an interesting fit in this race. look, this is a race where there is something of a vacuum, and i hear tell that nature abhors a vacuum and the vacuum is on the conservative side. there are governors in this race and

texas governor rick perry is still not saying whether he is getting in the race now but a new gallope a very strong contender. >> absolutely. that poll shows that him being in second place when he's added to the mix and actually running very closely with mitt romney, and if he does get in the race in a good time frame, if he decides to get in, would be around august, maybe early september, but if he does get in, he has the potential to be that anti-mitt romney alternative. as we've already seen michele bachmann is vying for that. you could end up having almost two tea party-like candidates running against mitt romney and michele bachmann and governor rick perry. >> more on that ahead but when we are talking about fund-raising, this is already in full gear. rick perry is actively participating in these meet and greets, the glad-handing is happening already although he has formally announced he is going to run. >> fund-raising is that big obstacle left when the rick perry folks were thinking about making a run, the question was can we build an operation to be able to raise $40 million

texas governor rick perry as you have never seen him before.ting on his horse and getting ready to ride into washington. >> sometimes your instincts tell you when man is right for the job. texans across the state know that rick perry is the man whose right for agriculture commissioner. >> he may be good at riding a horse. but he's also good at cutting education funds. his real coming up. if you've recently signed up for medicare or will soon, you're starting a whole new journey. and, like many people, you're probably wondering, where do i go from here? consider an aarp medicare supplement insurance plan, insured by unitedhealthcare insurance company. call now for a free information kit and guide to medicare to get started. basically, medicare only covers about 80% of your part b medical expenses. the rest is up to you. a medicare supplement insurance plan helps cover some of those expenses. and that can save you up to thousands of dollars a year in out-of-pocket costs. plus, you can keep any doctor who accepts medicare patients. together with m