rick perry: oh yeah. i have a house in austin and the house of here and i came up here when i do you were coming to the fair. -- knew you were coming to the fair. rick perry: it was a little 7-eleven and they turned it into -- you know where high park cafe is? rick perry: yeah. >> it is on the left. rick perry: next to the laundromat. >> if you want to have some really good mexican food, go there. rick perry: i think rob has some great restaurants. >> all these awesome. -- oh, he's awesome. >> there is a cleaner. >> jack brown. >> right behind the apartments. driving by getting a little breakfast. >> he wanted me to ask you about a time you went to the restaurant. rick perry: we used to take people there on a regular basis back when i was a governor. [laughter] >> thank you. keep it up. rick perry: where is your camera? >> thank you. thank you. good luck. >> on the count of three. 1, 2, 3. up.et your horns >> gig 'em. [laughter] >> longhorns and aggies. >> i will tell rob you said hi. . good luck. >> whet

shawl numbers are the difference between rick perry being done with politics forever and rick perry being a contender for president of the united states. in that quinnipiac poll, john kasich beats rick perry 5-2. beats him by a lot. fox news inexplicably threw out that poll and picked that one where they're tied, throwing out the nbc poll picking quinnipiac instead. that decision has the effect of making john kasich look like he is way more clearly ahead of rick perry than he would look otherwise. having done that, fox news was able to announce tonight that john kasich is in the in the debate and rick perry is out. >> this is where the real drama has been. the question has been who will make it into the tenth position and appear on the prime time debate stage with the fox news anchors at the debate. the tenth participant who will appear on stage at the fox news debate this thursday night is governor john kasich with 3.2%, the governor of ohio, which will be the state in which the debate is held. that edges out governor rick perry who had been in that position up until recently but did not

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and one great oddity of rick perry, one great piece of something more than trivia about rick perry andlican presidential campaign is that when you go back through the archives to find rick perry, you have to remember that for most of his career, rick perry was a democrat. there's rick perry, several hair cuts later, but he's huddled with his fellow democrats on the texas statehouse floor back in 1985. and rick perry wasn't just flirting with the democratic party at this time. this wasn't some, you know, brief youthful indiscretion. no, rick perry was a democrat for 38 years. he campaigned in texas for senator al gore when al gore was running for president back in 1988. it was not until representative rick perry started running for statewide office in texas that he magically morphed into a republican. first as texas ad commissioner, then as the state's lieutenant governor, and then ultimately rick perry ascended to become governor of texas, and he ascended to that job in an unconventional way. >> this is governor george w. bush and laura bush. he will be governor no more of the state of

rick perry: thank you. >> thank you so much. [indiscernible] [applause] >> thank you. >> can i get a photo with you? gov. perry: get it, man. >> on the count of three. 1, 2, 3. there we go. >> make room. make room. [indiscernible] gov. perry: that is the second-largest inland port in america. huge inland port. it is going to be a real challenge. mine cannot take much more. [laughter] i was talking to the executive director -- gov. perry: he was there six weeks ago on the agricultural side. [indiscernible] gov. perry: the whole concept of trade back and forth is a real challenge. the issue is we have these drug cartels and we are only we areing about 2% -- inspecting more than that but only catching the 2% of the illegal stuff coming across and what is the technology that we need to use to speed that process up to catch bad guys and help guys like you to move your trucks more expeditiously across the border. >> can i get a picture with you? perry: just you and i? do you fly? >> i have a little piper warrior. gov. perry: do you? ab

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rick perry was a democrat for 38 years.gned in texas for senator al gore when al gore was running for president in 1988. it was not until representative rick perry started running for statewide office in texas that he magically morphed into a republican. first as texas ag commissioner, then lieutenant governor and ascended to become governor of texas. he asended to that job in an unconventional way. >> this is governor george w. bush. this is the senate chamber in austin, texas. he is about to, with a wave of a pen, resign and he is going to shake hands here with lieutenant governor republican rick perry and his wife anita. there he will become the new texas governor. >> rick perry only got the job of texas governor because his predecessor had to leave to go become president. and that's a very unusual thing. turns out for the big long list of governors running for president it's not actually even that unusual. rick perry is not the only one to aascended to the job of governor without being elected to it. >> arkansas has a n

and then to adjure to that insult rick perry did a bad job at the kids' table debate. since then governor perry has sunk lower in the polls than he was before. he's approaching scratch territory in some polls. his fund-raising is also dried up to the extend that he has had to stop paying all of his campaign staff. well, last night we reported late-breaking news that the chairman of rick perry's presidential campaign in iowa had just quit. he's a man named sam clovis, not a national figure but sam clovis is recognizable in iowa republican and conservative politics. he's a former u.s. senate candidate, a right wing talk radio host in iowa. sam clough clovis has been running rick perry's iowa campaign. last night we reported he was leaving the position. he said he had great admiration for rick perry, he thought it was an excellent man and candidate but said it was "time to move on. the cliff hanger is that we didn't know where he was moving on to put yourself that mind-set, if you were a republican operative involved in presidential politics this year and for whatever reas

that couldn't have helped things for rick perry. and maybe governor perry has some plan to stick it out and run a -- you know, i guess it would be the first successful volunteer-based campaign for president while under indictment. maybe he'll be the guy who pulls that off. who knows? but it feels like rick perry may be toast. the polling results after that first hugely watched debate suggests the other person who may be toast is new jersey governor chris christie governor christie has been at the ragged edge of irrelevance throughout this cam ann year long. not only did he not get a bump out of his debate performance but he dropped even further than he was in the polls. his poll numbers are low enough that if a candidate like carly fiorina continues to do well as she has been in recent poll, carly fiorina may bump chris christie out of the top ten so he will only be at the kids' table debate next month when that debate is hosted by cnn. like rick perry, though, to be fair, it's not totally clear that you can blame the first debate fo

you have to teal bad about rick perry. carly fiorina won. rick perry just didn't make the cut.ll under rick perry under a lot of different objective measures. >> he told everyone in third person how well the governor of texas did. >> the man just cannot speak. it is like last time he was on painkillers and it screwed him up. >> rick perry is a guy who spent two hours and still walks outlooking like an idiot. i will say this for jeb bush. he does wear glasses that make him look intelligent. he wears glasses well. rick perry looks like an idiot with or without glasses. >> i think rick perry's glasses are much nicer than jeb bush's. >> jeb's ?roa slogan, it is -- jeb's slogan. it is time for bush with a bigger head. >> and what was going on with lyndsay graham? >> we are all going to die. >> i never had someone telling mooy how scary the world is while boring me at the same time. >> he is such a funny guy. >> he is funny and charming and single. >> to quote senator mark kirk. >> he sounds like he is making a recipe with paula deen. >> john stewart's finale. >> i didn't realize you

rick perry would be left out. it's at 5:00 p.m. eastern time when they determine who will be on that stage. in the meantime, candidates are spending hours in practice sessions as they prepare to face trump who will take part in his first debate. the strategy so far, it seems, a kinder, gentler trump. >> i think frankly i would like to discuss the issues. i'm not looking to take anybody out or be nasty to anybody. as you know, chuck, when i made harsh statements about various people, that was always in response to their criticism of me. you know, rick perry, i always thought he was a nice guy, but he started hitting me hard so i hit him harder. i'm not looking -- i don't know what they're going to be doing. i'm reading so many -- >> so if they don't attack you, you're not going to attack them. >> i think it's highly unlikely, i really do. >> but if they attack you -- >> i've always counterpunched and you have to counterpunch. >>> turning to the democratic side as first reported by the "new york times," there is now speculation that

rick perry. >> you know, for poll sitters out there who say former texas governor rick perry isn't an influential force in this race just yet, if that's the case, why did hillary clinton actually single him out with only two others in an ad attack? take a look at this. >> governor perry drastically cut funding for breast and cervical cancer screenings and then signed legislation that forced health centers across the state to close their doors in an attempt to wipe out access to safe and legal abortions altogether. neil: all right, with us now, the former texas governor, 2016 presidential candidate, rick perry, here to respond. governor, good to have you. >> good to be with you. neil: you were with scott walker and jeb bush, candidates up there, unfriendly to win via opposition to planned parenthood. i wanted to give you a chance to respond to that, what do you think? >> we've expanded health care for women in the state of texas in multiple ways. we've passed the most sweeping tort reform that exploded access to health care. if you were a pregnant female along the rio grande, you had t

there was a dts about rick perry -- deep tease about rick perry finally doing it.sey seemed like he was this lead. george pataki did not have much energy. rick perry and his body language and sharp rebuttal of the truck charge that he managed to secure the border. it shows more energy than anybody else. kathleen: he was the energizer bunny by comparison. john: when rick perry slipped out of the top 10, is there a way back to the top tier for him.? kathleen: it will be very tough. what he was trying to do this time around was to redeem himself from the awful moment -- the oops thing. that is a terrible way to have your whole political life remembered. he has worked very hard to change everything about his image. i'm not even talking about the glasses. maybe he needs glasses. i need these to see, but they are cute. let's be clear. john: you should offer him a loan of your glasses. gohleen: for the people to and get up this be. to speed. he admits he was not ready last time. it must be disappointing for him not to showcase that. kathleenh green, parker, thank you for

also rick perry is under indictment which is also not good.verybody's thinking in this giant field of republican candidates, everybody's been thinking that if this big field is about to start to shrink the first evidence will be when rick perry's candidacy comes to an end. he is the one who campaign is on death watch. i'm not so sure. i think rick perry's campaign is on death watch but i think he may not be the first major republican candidate to quit the race. i think another one who is an even much bigger name than his, might quit before rick perry does. i actually think that one major republican candidate for the presidency might quit potentially this weekend. it's a dramatic story, it's not getting a lot of press but i think this might be about to happen. e american express card. e american express card. don't leave home without it! and someday, i may even use it on the moon. it's a marvelous thing! oh! haha! so you can replace plane tickets, traveler's cheques, a lost card. really? that worked? american express' timeless safety and securi

john kasich, chris christie brought up the rear appearing to edge out rick perry and the donald tops every leaderboard insight. mark how do we end up here? mark: the top ten average, you will see basically the same group. no one from the bottom. carly fiorina said she would fight her way in. john kasich went from zero to three or four or five depending on the poll in a way that was quite strategic and tactical and smart and he gets on the stage which for him is a huge deal. john: and the big loser apparently, rick perry who did a lot of stuff to try to get himself in the national news from attacking donald trump informal settings a cancer and conservatism to making funny jokes about him all kinds of stuff to breakthrough yet he kept slipping back. the first form with fewer candidates will get to talk more in a substantive discussion that will not be dominated i donald trump will get a ton of coverage and rick perry will be better off. john: that may turn out to be true. mark: it will. john: all these people who have been with the candidates have been saying we do not care, it will wo

plus, rick perry was the governor of texas. a three-term governor of texas. texas was threatening to secede because america was too far left. if fox news doesn't let perry into the debate, i think that basically guarantees that everyone in texas is going to say -- >> adios, mofo. [ laughter ] >> seth: and that's on you, fox. [ applause ] that's on you, fox news. this has been "free rick perry." we'll be right back with more "late night." [ cheers & applause ] did you leave behind something reliable? something that felt like... home? and now you can't connect the way you used to... because you switched wireless carriers and are getting a less reliable connection. it's okay. we're still here for you and we'll be happy to have you back on a reliable network. come home to verizon and get 10 gigs for $80 a month plus $15 per line. only at verizon. it's just a summer thing double it up this summer... with a hot deal from mcdonald's. the two-fifty double combo. a mouthwatering double cheeseburger... and small fries for just two-fifty. ba da ba ba ba kids, juicy fruit

debate include rick perry. he finished 11th. but he will be in the number one position for the earlier debate. rick santorum another person who ran in 2012 both of them at least so far have not caught on. bobby jindal the current governor of louisiana, carly fiorina, the only woman in the pack former ceo of hewlett-packard. lindsey graham senator from south carolina running very much on a foreign policy platform of engagement hawkish. george pitaki former governor of new york and the former governor of virginia jim gilmore, who also ran previously. and at this point is well under 1%. you guys your thoughts about that group. >> well i tell you, it's going to be interesting. bill hammer and martha will be running the show from 5:00 to 6:00 p.m. eastern time. it's important to point out that any of those candidates could bump up later on and be in a different position in a different debate. from 9:00 to 11:00 the focus will be on those ten on stage. and we've been working in that cocoon of moderators guys to come up with those ques

former texas governor rick perry. will he get a chance this week to make up for some shaky moments in the last campaign? daughter: do you and mom still have money with that broker? dad: yeah, 20 something years now. thinking about what you want to do with your money? daughter: looking at options. what do you guys pay in fees? dad: i don't know exactly. daughter: if you're not happy do they have to pay you back? dad: it doesn't really work that way. daughter: you sure? vo: are you asking enough questions about the way your wealth is managed? wealth management at charles schwab. >>> a look outside the beltway the site of this week's first republican presidential debate. one of the candidates hoping for a prime time spot on that debate stage is former texas governor rick perry. governor, welcome back to "fox news sunday." >> good to be with you chris. >> we were just talking about this with john kasich in the real clear politics average of the most recent polls, he's in ninth place. you're in 11th place with 2.2% support

will rick perry climb into contention here and be on that main stage? and how will candidates react to being in the second tier debate? those are the questions at this hour. one thing we know for sure, this debate is going to be all about one man -- donald trump. >> my business has been phenomenal. and i've built a great business. the only reason i say that is i think people concur with that. i think people are tired, they're sick and tired of incompetent politicians. nobody knows the politicians, you know, better than me. don't forget, three months ago i was on the other side of the ledger. i was the fair-haired boy in the rnc. when i get up and speak, i get the biggest crowds, get standing ovations and all we do is talk about how great our country could be. >> joining me now are msnbc political correspondent kacie hunt, dana milbank of "the washington post," and msnbc political analyst jonathan alter. thank you for being here. >> we're still waiting for the official announcement, but is the stage basically set? >> well, at this point, reverend, we kno

debate include rick perry. he finished 11th. but he will be in the number one position for the earlier debate. rick santorum another person who ran in 2012 both of them at least so far have not caught on. bobby jindal the current governor of louisiana, carly fiorina, the only woman in the pack former ceo of hewlett-packard. lindsey graham senator from south carolina running very much on a foreign policy platform of engagement hawkish. george pitaki former governor of new york and the former governor of virginia jim gilmore, who also ran previously. and at this point is well under 1%. you guys your thoughts about that group. >> well i tell you, it's going to be interesting. bill hammer and martha will be running the show from 5:00 to 6:00 p.m. eastern time. it's important to point out that any of those candidates could bump up later on and be in a different position in a different debate. from 9:00 to 11:00 the focus will be on those ten on stage. and we've been working in that cocoon of moderators guys to come up with those ques

brian, let's start with rick perry. there are signs that his presidential campaign may soon be over. >> reporter: yeah, there's news that rick perry's fundraising has all but dried up. he stopped paying staffers in the critical early voting states, but this morning it's not all bad news for the underdog. he's supposed to be the underdog, an afterthought, but democrat bernie sanders packed an arena in los angeles a day after drawing the biggest crowd of any 2016 presidential candidate. >> we have more than 27,000 people. >> reporter: front-runner hillary clinton is taking aim at republicans. >> the other side is pretty entertaining from time to time. you know, when they're not insulting and offending people -- >> reporter: but clinton didn't reserve that criticism for donald trump whose fellow republicans are struggling to get out from under his shadow. >> i can't win this race, but together we can win this race. >> reporter: carly fiorina is riding a post-debate wave. >> the one candidate to really come out of the under

former texas governor rick perry. then our sunday group weighs in on what to look for in the debate and whether hillary clinton's troubles could entice a new rival into the democratic race. all right now on "fox news sunday." >>> and hello again from fox news in washington. now just four days before the first republican debate. this thursday, the huge field of gop can'ts will gather in cleveland for fox news facebook debate night. the first event at 5:00 p.m. eastern, then the main prime time debate with the top ten can'ts in the polls. at 9:00 p.m. eastern on fox news channel. today we're talking with two candidates vying to be on that stage. first, the governor of ohio john kasich who's riding a post announcement bump in the polls, governor welcome back to fox news sunday. >> thank you chris, good to be with you. >> in the real clear politics average of recent poms you're in ninth place now at 3.5% and in the most recent, the latest of the polls, you're doing better than that. as the governor of the state where the

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. >> rick perry. >> rick perry is a good friend of mine.k perry got my to out source a lot of manufacturing from california to texas as a matter of fact. >> rand paul. >> libertarian. >> okay marco rubio. >> good friend. >> donald trump. >> rich guy. >> ted cruz. >> fiery guy. >> scott walker. >> a fighter. >> rick perry. >> a really texan. >> john kasich. >> smart guy, too. all these guys, they're mine friends. it's hard to say anybody bad about them. >> rand paul. >> a really nice guy. i do like him a lot. he called me, wanted to make. i do like him. i disagree with some of his policies. that's okay. >> marco rubio. >> he's an over rated guy. i think i have much better hair than he does. i think that i never really met him. i saw him quickly going on a stage. i thought -- i do think he was very very disloyal to bush. bush was his mentor. and bush was his mentor. i think he was disloyal to bush. and if you can, i hope you'll ask me about bush now. i thought it was horrible when he said "a dear friend". you said marco rubio to bush and bush

it is 3.2 percent average edged out rick perry who managed 1.8 percent. the remaining 7 candidate including bobby jindal of louisiana and lindsay gram will appear in a separate candidate's forum hosted by fox news at 5:00 p.m. eastern time tomorrow. businessman and pro vok tore donald trump the frontrunner will occupy central stage. trump vowed to be himself. he is not looking to embarrass any one else on stage. while arrivals of trump told megyn kelly said he and trump have no secret deal to avoid talking to each other. >> i want to talk about immigration or bad trade deals. i may say i can negotiate better than anybody else. i wrote "the art of the deal" i ran businesses as you know. >> a lot of the field have fallen all over themselves to smack donald with a stick. they are frightened by what he is saying. not only have i refused to do that but i have commended donald for having the courage to speak out and shine a light on the problem of illegal immigration. >> as the anticipation for this event builds i want to make it clear to you heather i, too, wi

. >> rick perry is one of them who is off the list. . fox news, the five most recent national opinion polls determine who made the cut and who didn't, the stage at quick and loans are reading cleveland will be bursting with candidates and intrigue. the stage is set to end years is the law. donald trump, joy. scott walker, mike huckabee, ben carson, ted cruz, marco rubio, rand paul, chris christie, and john kasich. all eyes are on donald trump who will take center stage literally and figuratively. in an interview with bill o'reilly he admitted to being a bit nervous but said he had not rest much. >> how do you rehearse for a debate. on what mitt romney, he let us down last time, he rehearsed, the third debate was catastrophic and i don't know what happened to him but you have to be yourself. >> many will be watching the debate is jihad george bush performs, he will be asked about this controversial comment he made yesterday. >> the next president should defund planned parenthood. >> reporter: he was not sure the federal government needed

. >> rick perry. >> rick perry is a good friend of mine.my to out source a lot of manufacturing from california to texas as a matter of fact. >> rand paul. >> libertarian. >> okay marco rubio. >> good friend. >> donald trump. >> rich guy. >> ted cruz. >> fiery guy. >> scott walker. >> a fighter. >> rick perry. >> a really texan. >> john kasich. >> smart guy, too. all these guys they're mine friends. it's hard to say anybody bad about them. >> rand paul. >> a really nice guy. i do like him a lot. he called me, wanted to make. i do like him. i disagree with some of his policies. that's okay. >> marco rubio. >> he's an over rated guy. i think i have much better hair than he does. i think that i never really met him. i saw him quickly going on a stage. i thought -- i do think he was very very disloyal to bush. bush was his mentor. and bush was his mentor. i think he was disloyal to bush. and if you can, i hope you'll ask me about bush now. i thought it was horrible when he said "a dear friend". you said marco rubio to bush and bush said "a dear

among those who didn't make the cut for this debate are george pataki and rick perry. they will be among those participating in an earlier televised forum, at 5:00 p.m. tomorrow. as a less prominent time slot, some are calling this the the j.d. debate, these candidates might get more air time because there were fewer of them and think about the fact the tweeting candidates, that will be a circus if it devolves into something with donald trump and a candidate. >> moderators are going to be very good about that. >> that earlier forum may be better at sneaking interest. ben: at least four of the candidates, and read something each candidate in this and ten minutes of speaking time. ten people only two hours and -- >> will that be divided equally. >> you have questions time, there might be closing statements. we will see. >> robert moses. >> a lot more still to come including -- juliet: billy joel. >> the final show at the nassau coliseum last night. we will bring some highlights and michael has of forecasts for s. >> a bid for wednesday, sunny skies, a few clouds, less hu

rick perry. they're in the quote/unquote lead if you will on the bubble guys. can you do anything in the last 48 hours, you got 48 hours? >> i think you can't do much because all of these polls are already in progress. i mean a poll is a snapshot in time of what has already happened. something has to be entrained by now to get more attention. of those three governors john kasich was the last to get in. he's definitely gotten more attention. but it's unclear if it will be enough. i think if any of the three, he may be the hardest pressed to get in because he's not as well known nationally. but can you imagine the two-term governor of ohio, former chairman of the budget committee, respected in every, a debate in his own state may not get in. we want chris christie to be in and rick perry to be in because they've been the most combative against donald trump. in any case it's going to be a loser for the party. these rules don't look so great in hindsight. >> i think who gets in affects the dynamic. rick perry from the start of this trump boomlet has been one of the

-span it seems like isil rick perry on c-span -- it seems like i saw a rick perry on c-span and he was order security. donald trump has been on television, and basically he does not get down to specifics. it is too bad that cnn -- it is good that we have c-span to be able to see rick perry and candidates like that, but it seems like regular media is shutting them out. almost someone who has given good and practical implementations, and it seems like -- i just want to think c-span for giving us that access for people like myself in california and around the country. >> thank you for calling. republican caller: from bronx, new york. caller: i want to talk about the first debate. as a republican, i was very republicant no mentioned the poor, the needy, or the middle class. all they talk about is the isis war. i want to let the world know that i'm very much ashamed to be a republican. all they think about is war. thank you. next call is dave in brighton, colorado. your thoughts. caller: i just want to mention that i thought debbie wasserman schultz did a tremendous job. i thought she spoke

those who missed the cut rick perry. as michael shure reports that does not mean we should count them out of the race. >> with all the fanfare of the ncaa tournament bracket draw, fox news announced the top 10 in their debate for thursday night in cleveland. it combined five different polls. the polls they used were cbs, of course a fox poll, they used three others. all had a varying margin of error between three and five for the cbs poll. it seemed as if the one candidate who didn't make it, who had a shot of making it and was in the debate was rick perry. he took it on the chin. that's because john kasich joined the fray recently and pushed periout of it. perry was somebody who made a big mistake at the debate last year in 2012. this was supposed to have been a sort of redemption for rick perry. it's not to be. he's going to be on the second stage. the second stage is one people should be watching as well, because from jim gilmore to george pataki, licensed graham and carly fiorina and rick perry, those candidates are

just two months after announcing a second run for the white house governor rick perry reportedly has paying all of his campaign staff because his fund-raising has dried up. perry's campaign manager told the staff they are free to look for other jobs. it's bad news for the former governor who said earlier this year that his 2012 loss was a big blow. >> listen, this was a very humbling experience for me. the fact is we go through humbling events in our lives, and that one certainly was. anyone who watched that campaign knows it was a very humbling time for me. but that's not necessarily bad. i judge people on how do you react after a failure? how do you pick yourself up and go forward. >> could he be the first candidate to fall? >> there are a few of them that are teetering around bankruptcy. but perry is certainly looking that way. i know it was reported that his campaign manager told people that they can start looking or should start looking for other positions. >> for other jobs. >> for other jobs -- i mean, positions with other campaigns. so i think that when you look at perry, he n

but in the case of rick perry, he has not been able to necessarily. and for rand paul, money is really important. and there is not enough. mark: although perry super pac has millions of dollars in it. if he scales back, all you need are some plane tickets to show up and be on television shows. terry and everybody else realizes that when and if as they think will happen donald trump will have collapsed there will be a lot of instability and even if you are not the immediate beneficiary you can be the last man standing. winnowing. no john: ted cruz has been on a roll since the republican debate last week in cleveland. the crowd loved him. his campaign has been bragging about big crowds he's been getting on a bus trip through the south. and he's got a new tv ad running in des moines, iowa. >> for a century americans have helped heal and care for those in need. our values propelled extraordinary innovation. america made the world better. how did america become a country that harvested organs from unborn children? and who has the money to stop it? -- who ha