i sat down with our county attorney then, rick romly. i said, this is what i want to do. i wanted to compile everything that i can get off of facebook, everything that i can get off of the graffiti tracker program and try to nail the subject with the graffiti that they've done just by using those two things basically. let's try it. first guy we did was ultra here. he didn't have a lot. it was more for these slap tags. but he did about 125 incidences in the city of phoenix. not a big one, but it's just enough to start me out to try to get something. he was an adult and he served 36 days in jail doing city. i didn't get enough to get a felony count on that, but that was my first attempt at getting a felony. i heard some people in here, san francisco, $450 is the damage limit for a felony, 400? phoenix or arizona it's a thousand. okay. it used to be 250 years ago and they moved it up to a thousand. so, it's a little bit harder for us to get -- if i got him down to $97 0 in damage, i almost got him. [laughter] >> but this is the way we started, though. ultra was my very first