we'll talk with rick sherlund in the next hour. >> i hope he has the glasses on.hat picture is wrong. david, is it not true that anyone -- did anyone think pc sales were any good at all? come on. is this such a shocker? >> no, it's not. it is not. the gartner numbers were out last week. we did get a sense for this. but when you look at it in front of you and you think about 14% decline? that's not quite jcpenney same-story sales numbers but it is not good. >> i have to go to women's wear daily to find out exactly how bad those are. it is going to be hewlett-packard. is this the opportune time to take dell private? is this the right moment? >> that's a very good and valid question. as plaquestone continues its due diligence for a bid that we expect they may -- may make, let's call it a number of weeks from now -- one has to wonder when you look at that headwind, what do you do? do you say we're all right, the strategy's a good one, even if it is 65% of revenues of the company -- we're not worried. >> my advice with michael dell is to do what my friend mark cuban di