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layman that prosecutors go easier on little fish when they're after the whale could former governor rick snyder a republican still be held accountable. in the criminal context yes i think if we were to learn anything thus far from watching under a microscope the mower investigation nationally and internationally i think we would all agree at this point that we won't know the end of this story until he and his team decide to tell us how it ends i think the same is true in flint you're correct seven out of fifteen individuals who have been charged criminally have pled guilty to crimes to misdemeanors and yes you're correct that it appears to many people as though they'll be a slap on the wrist essentially to those folks but i have faith in prosecutors and folks who. for a living attempt to put criminals behind bars and bring justice to individuals and communities that they've got to plan and hopefully this seven please will lead to a larger effort and maybe some bigger fish to fry in terms of governor snyder himself absolutely my guess is he is a target of the investigation and in order to create

we just finished eight years of rick snyder who is a conservative republican, put us in good financial condition. the new governor, wretch and ,hitner, -- gretchen whitner the only problem she could run $2 billione spending a year replacing roads and bridges, but that was a big campaign subject in the last election. other than that, michigan is great. we have population coming back into the state instead of leaving. there is the auto motive industry but that has been going up and down for years. host: the economy pretty good in grand rapids? caller: it is. it is not flashy. it does not have highs and lows but it is study. we have full employment in the western part of the state and even the southeastern part of the state is coming back. host: i am going to let you go and get one call. from baltimore, tom. what is going on in your state? caller: i wanted to make a common. first, let me say i'm a democrat. it is not that democrats do not believe in a wall. it is the fact that the wall is a silly idea that doesn't really get to the heart of the matter. host: we are going to let you go on

snyder. >> roger stone has been making the media rounds all before he gets to the d.c. courthouse on tuesday and before he appears before that same judge who is overseeing both paul manafort and rick gates cases and she is definitely tough. so perhaps roger stone trying to get the last word in before any possible gag order. stone, though, leaving the door open to cooperation with the special counsel and also saying he would tell the truth about his communications with donald trump which he says never involved russia. now of course roger stone was indicted on thursday and arrested in that early morning fbi raid friday at his home in fort lauderdale, florida. he now faces 7 counts including obstruction, witness tampering and false statements to congress. here's what he said about the possibility of testifying for the special counsel's investigation. >> any chance you'll cooperate with special counsel robert mueller if he asks? >> that's a question that i'd have to determine after my attorneys have some discussion. if there's wrong doing by other people in the campaign that i know about, which i know of none, but if there is, i would certainly testify honestly. i'd also testify hones