but michigan's governor rick snyder-who is also named as a defendant in the lawsuit-hasn't directly addressed the allegations so far. we caught up with him at a press conference he was holding in detroit. >> so the governor's just arrived and we've heard he's going to make a major statement just shortly about criminal justice and prison reform. >> one thing we need to recognize in the vast majority of the people that are incarcerated are coming back out. and should be coming back out. and the question is, is by helping them be successful coming back out it's a win for all of us. >> the governor's speech made no mention of concerns about conditions for minors in michigan's prisons. >> what's your response to allegations that young men under the age of 18 have been sexually abused and abused in serious criminal ways in prisons in michigan and feel that the state failed to protect them? >> yeah, actually that's in litigation. so i can't comment on active matters where the state is a party to litigation. that wouldn't be legally appropriate. so what i would say is, with respect to looking at the

not to mention, remembering the suffering of those poor pows who got on the boat and they lost their lives in the river. katty: covers rick snyder can so much for joining us from arkansas. we will be taking a quick break. you can join our conversation with alan huffman, and his book is "sultana: surviving the civil war, prison, and the worst maritime disaster in american history." the phone number here is available or you can send us an e-mail. you can also find us on facebook or you can send us a tweet. do stay with us. ♪ katty: we should get into what the congressman was raising about how so little was raised because of what was going on at the time. great, thank you. thank you. did sandra managed to call the babysitter? sandra: the phones were out. katty: the phones were out where they? center: -- sandra: yes. katty: thank you. >> -- and by the end of her foundation and find a set and the berg -- and by the annenberg foundation, find us on annenbergfoundation.org. >> next, we are joined by a guess who writes in "the atlantic" that talks about national oligarchy. join us on the next "fresh air." katty: there are a lot of good