and joining us now, rick stengel, former secretary of state in the obama administration.dward fishman, who served as russia sanctions lead to at the state department. rick stengel, let me begin with you and what we saw today at that summit with president biden and the continued and consistent unity of nato and european partners. >> yes, lawrence, continued and consistent, president biden is keeping the band together. but he's got to push it forward. he's got to get things to be a little more serious. i hope the message from nato and from president biden to president putin is this, look, you can't win this war. we are not going to let you win this war. so you need to sue for peace. you have to think about what you can do to settle things so that you can see some face in your country and preserve the integrity of ukraine. i hope that's what's happening. the top has to be tougher. nato and the u.s. have to be more aggressive. every time we say that we will defend every square inch of nato territory, putin here is, well, i guess the rest is for me. we have to tell, am he's no

michael mcfaul, rick stengel are staying with us.o egregious that the state department and the american intelligence community have publicly called it out for what it is. big fat lie. but guess who bought it hook, line, and sinker, and amplified it. fox news host tucker carlson. it happened last night. >>> plus, why putin felt he didn't need to invade ukraine while donald trump was the president. some of my brand-new conversation with former u.s. ambassador to ukraine, maria yavonovich is ahead. >>> and frightening new information on what ukraine light look like if russia is able to take control of the country. there are already signs of what could be in store if russia isn't stopped. could be in store if russia isn't stopped. "deadline white house" continues after a quick break. "deadline white house" continues after a quick break. as a main street bank, pnc has helped over 7 million kids develop their passion for learning through our grow up great initiative. and now, we're providing billions of dollars for affordable home lending

with me, rick stengel, former undersecretary of state for public diplomacy, and andrea kendall taylorecurity. former deputy intelligence officer for russia at the national intelligence council and former cia analyst who worked on russian political dynamics. as the u.s. and other countries target these rich oligarchs, can they be effective? >> that's the number one question now. we have to remember that putin for 22 years has benefited from a very cohesive elite. it's worked because these people have access to patron naj, all the yachts and properties in western cities. you do see sometimes disagreements emerge among the elite. but the key thing is they can't do anything to rock the boat because it would risk bringing down the whole system and disrupting their access to these perks of power. i think that's changing now. historically these elites have never had to choose between putin and the life they want to live. that's totally different now. i think putin understands that. he's more concerned about keeping the elite on his side than he was a week ago. the key question is what the im

let me bring rick stengel in. closing down things like american spaces, which were american libraries. we used to have 35 of them in russia, and they closed them all down during the obama administration. the toughest decision anyone who runs a news organization has ever made, and i used to have to make these decisions is, do you send someone in harm's way? and if they're there, do they want to come home? my first thing is, if they want to come home, get out of moscow, come home, take the first flight. but i think it's a very, very difficult decision to make to close a bureau during a war where information is repressed, where it's absolutely vital to the west. it's vital to the u.s. it's vital for europe to have reporters there. i don't know the things that they know and the threats that they're under. but it's a regrettable decision in the sense that we need that information, and the russian people need that information. >> let me say, you know journalists. i know journalists. i'm guessing these decisions are comi

some recognition about crimea, you might have enough to off-ramp putin if he's feeling pain. >> rick stengelys good to see you. thank you, rick. >>> still ahead, congressman mike quigley, a member of the intelligence committee with us with what more the u.s. need to be doing to help ukraine. but first, a ukrainian soldier says he's willing to die to keep ukraine out of russia's hands. >> we're nod afraid to pay this high price. not to achieve something, but stop this country from something. and this would becoming partial to this terrible russian state. i feel like i'm in a movie. le re i fe lelike i'm in a movie fran. he's a fast talker. a fast walker. thanks, gary. and for unexpected heartburn... frank is a fan of pepcid. it works in minutes. nexium 24 hour and prilosec otc can take one to four days to fully work. pepcid. strong relief for fans of fast. ♪ ♪ ♪a little bit of chicken fried♪ ♪cold beer on a friday night♪ ♪a pair of jeans that fit just right♪ ♪and the radio up well i've seen the sunrise...♪ get 5 boneless wings for $1 with any handcrafted burger. only at applebee's when you ne

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mission to the united nations and msnbc political analyst, rick stengel, former undersecretary of stateto hear the sound from dasha's reporting, but i'm thinking about the fact that president biden, who many people think of as a comforter in chief, also a storied statesman, is going to be meeting with refugees like this. when you consider the full context of who this president is, do you expect those meetings -- do you expect him hearing directly from these refugees to really change the trajectory of where this is all headed? >> i would hope he does have the opportunity to meet refugees and as you said, alicia, he's good at empathizing with people, but the scale of what he has to empathize with here is just extraordinary. i mean, it's the largest displacement of refugees since world war ii. we're not even talking about the internal displacement of people within ukraine, but poland is, through an act of incredible generosity, is hosting as many as 2 million refugees. poland, by the way, which was victimized by russia at the beginning of world war ii in 1939, is very, very aware of russia

joining our coverage, ben rhodes, former national security adviser to president obama and rick stengeli'm glad you're both here. ben, the work that will happen in brussels does not begin the minute the president steps off that plane. there has been a lot of work that has been done in the lead up to this to make sure that he has the greatest likelihood of being successful as possible. and so as someone who has prepped a president for exactly this type of high stakes meeting, i want you to pull back the curtain for us. what has been happening behind the scenes by the biden team in preparation for this summit? what does the administration want to get out of this? and what does biden need to say in order to get there? >> what's interesting is normally you have many months to prepare for an emergency summit, but the reality is they've been running their entire strategy through this group of countries. when you look at the components of what they've done in response to the war in ukraine, it's been coordinated sanctions largely with other nato countries. it's been the provision of arms to uk