sign up as a new vip only@fabletics.com. >> we're back. >> with. >> julia ioffe, edward luce, and rick stengel i want to go in the way back machine because there was a time. >> when. >> republicans were 180 degrees. >> from where they are today. >> and i remember the late senator john mccain in 2015, along with, you know, senator lindsey graham. >> talking about the. >> dire situation at that time in ukraine. let's listen first to the senator from arizona. >> it's shameful. vladimir putin has not paid any price. even the. ceasefire was violated. >> until he. >> achieved his objective. ukrainians aren't asking for american. >> boots on the ground. that's not the. question here. they're asking for. >> weapons to. >> defend themselves and they're. >> being slaughtered. this is a shameful chapter. >> i'm ashamed of my country. >> i'm ashamed of. >> my president. >> and i'm ashamed. >> of. myself that i haven't done. >> more to. >> help these people. >> it is. >> really, really heartbreaking. >> and just just real quick on that. you had headlines screaming at that time in washington times, lindsey

so this is a scary prospect. >> rick stengel and dan deluca, i thank you both so very much. h our communication. always important to hear from you. i thank you both. there are new developments this morning on president trump's crackdown on undocumented immigration. the new york times reports growing frustration inside the white house about the pace of arrests and deportations, as the administration seeks to carry out what it says will be the largest deportation program in american history. this comes as the washington post reports the trump administration is reopening a sprawling detention center in south texas for migrant families facing deportation. with us now is immigration attorney david leopold, former president of the american immigration lawyers association. david, thank you for your time. what would the reopening of that specific facility mean? well, i guess the first question. >> you got to. ask is. what's the motivation here? what what is the point of locking up children? does this. >> does this. >> align with what president trump campaigned on when he was talking

joining me now is msnbc political analyst rick stengel. ate for public diplomacy and public affairs in the obama administration. rick, when i when i went to the white house, i would staff the vice president for i'd be one of the folks in the room staffing her for the calls that she would do with world leaders and whatnot. and it seems to me that what the trump administration is doing is they are they are doing these things without talking to our allies and get on the phone with them afterwards. i don't understand the strategy. >> i don't either. and i mean, they don't seem to prepare for anything. >> i mean, as you know. >> there was meticulous. >> preparation, by. >> the way. >> every president, republican. >> and democrat. >> had meticulous. >> preparation. >> but he does seem to like to. >> wing it like. >> what he said, you know. >> in the art of the deal. he wants to. >> be spontaneous. >> i mean, you know. >> superpowers don't bluff. superpowers are not spontaneous. the world wants predictability. he a little bit embraces. >> that. >>