for more on this historic mission we are being joined by a space visionary rick tumlinson he's the cofounder of deep space industries space frontier foundation and a number of others thank you for joining us today rick. so the percy rover as they're calling it for short is expected to touch down on the red planet late february of 2021 its mission is to seek signs of ancient life on mars so what sort of life do they think was once present and what led them to believe that mars may have once been hospitable to any form of life. but contrary to some of the shows on. here i don't think they're going to be looking for you know for sure. most likely it's going to be something like if there's anything at all it's going to be bacteriological you know very tiny at the most maybe something like that the reason why you're going where they are is because there is evidence that there was actually water flowing in. particular area you know and so there's anywhere on the planet where here there might be. remnants of what was a large that's probably. gone away. and let's talk more broadly about space wreck