of all, i think in the case of general motors, i think rick wagner was very, very open to female leaders and wanted to see them promoted as fast as possible and wanted to put them in positions of greater responsibility and willing to take -- play to push female leaders pretty fast. you know, maybe you can take a little risk and pushed them faster than what we would normally say they were ready for. so there was no problem there. it was really cannot present have made what i consider the boldest move of putting maryborough in for product development. now the broader question, do i think it was good to bring outsiders then? i think because we've got outsiders in all three american come and is now. if the searcher marconi at chrysler jeep, alan mullally afford again ackerson at gm. i was always have the feeling that an automotive ceo should have an automotive background because he needed to understand the industry and make the right judgment. i revise my opinion on not. what i think is the most important is for the non-automotive experienced ceo to be possessed obviously have good leadershi