they're much -- i mean, rick wilson is a great admin.h better at saying in a simple term the opposite but making it sound true to their base. the messaging is part of the plan and they're good at it. >> what is wrong with identification? you have to use identification to get a bottle of beer. they're good at coming up with points. in someways, we complain and we get worried about this as we stood. sometimes it might sound like will they come in and start locking up people and coming out with guns drawn? that's not the point. the point is if you're thinking about having a registration drive and there are people out there patrolling, you say maybe i shouldn't. if there is some confusion and they say we'll lock up people who show up with the wrong identification or you try to vote and you are a felon, even though we now say you can in this county but not that county, people will say i don't know. they got that person upstate. so it's all creating disincentive and scaring people and raising the bar and this is where the parties break down. r

i will tell you, it is people like joe walsh and nicole wallace, rick wilson raising the alarm bells tell them, listen to people you might disagree on politics. the great lesson is in saving your democracy, you often have to join with people you den agree with ideologically to preserve your democratic republic or your democracy. that's why i urge my fellow democrats to understand and define her. when i say fascism, i'm not being hyperbolic. this gop is autocratic plus violence. cbs polls show 56% of republicans look at january 6th as an act of defending freedom. i appreciate those i disagree with ideologically on substance who still are patriots. who still believe in this democratic republic we can join together on one front to save our republic from this gop, which is how democracies die. >> joe, how did this go wrong? i feel for a long time america did a good job of understanding that our fundamental agreement on the tenets of democracy are not in dispute. we could completely have different views across the political spectrum. you can believe in no minimum wage. can i believe in $2

joining me is rick wilson, a republican strategist and author of running with the devil. a plot to save republicans from themselves. and a professor of history at new york university. the author of strongmen. and professor at emory university and author of one person, no vote. how voter suppression is destroying our democracy. i can't think of a better panel to have this conversation with. thank you. i want to start with you. do you think that the minority party is able to control so much of what gets done that impacts tens of millions of americans represents a critical flaw in the structure of democracy as it is operating now? it may not be at the time of its creation. now with 330 million people, 50 states. it doesn't seem to be functioning the way it was intended to. >> the problem that we have is that we have what we had back in the cold war era. these southern democrats who look like they have the democratic label but in fact, they were ultra conservative and deeply anti-civil rights. deeply anti-black. and they would align with the conservative republicans in order

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