and rick wilson, cofounder of the lincoln project and author of the book running against the devil, a plot to save america from trump and the democrats from themselves. both of them here in the flesh in new york. what a treat. thank you so much for joining us. how do we end up here with this believability gap where a candidate is demonstrably lying 24/7, and it just completely gets information siloed. his base has no idea that he is just lying to them. >> right. or they don't think he will do the worst stuff. they give him the benefit of the doubt. i think part of this is that he was a celebrity before -- a celebrity before he was a politician, and he continues to really be a celebrity. and so i think that there's a feeling like he says a lot of stuff, he shoots from the hip, but he's not really going to do deportation camps. though i want to say at the rnc, they were holding up signs that said, mass deportation now. i feel like when you print the signs, you're probably going to do it. >> i mean, he ultimately did the muslim ban. he did overturn roe v wade. he did try to build the wal

i want to bring into the conversation on misha cross and rick wilson. also joining the conversation, christina greer. again, you know, i want to just take a minute. it is a most impossible to fact check donald trump in real time, but there were a series of lies that donald trump spewed throughout the course of that speech that we were listening to, lies about immigrants in this country. lies about immigrants in springfield, ohio, saying there are 30,000 of them. that is not true. those who are in springfield, ohio, as has repeatedly been said officials in that city and state, as they have been there legally with the right permit to be there. he has said lie after lie about millions of criminals coming into this country. again, not by the millions have criminal records. that was a lie. donald trump again showing, saying that he did not start any wars. this is a president that through his time had more drone strikes than previous presidents. he also killed iranian generals and third world countries that brought us to the brink of war. the list of lies the

that is his attempt, his of you rick wilson, cofounder of the lincoln project, and a former republicanegist. that does it for me. thank you for watching. inside with jen psaki begins now.

it's exactly the way my friend rick wilson described it in his first book about trump which everything touches dies. that includes a people who do his bidding. for me, it's more than she did in freud. shot in freud. for the lawyers, it's particularly important that these men and women be made examples of. lawyers are not allowed to do these things, even in the course of election litigation. the ability of the trump campaign to find people to do in 2024 what was done in 2020 will be limited by this. there's a group called the 65 project run by a friend of mind. that group has brought disciplinary complaints against a number these lawyers who lied to courts. a number have been discipline. now this group is taking out ads in states saying this is what happened to these people. don't be one of them. i think there is more here than just like watching the decline of one sorry former mayor of the city of new york. >> i agree. there's a great op-ed in "the new york times" i think last week which was written by my wife, where she was talking about the degree to which lawyers in good standing wi

as rick wilson pointed out in his substack this morning, it's all good until donald trump says i'm going 5% of blue origin's profits and i'm going to need don jr. and eric to get board seats and lara to become editor in chief of "the washington post." it's all good until he says i'm taking this business because i don't like what you said about me at a dinner party. they think they can control these autocrats, but ask the oligarchs around putin how well that goes. >> or ask president vaughn hinder brg in germany who appointed hitler chancellor in 1933 after hitler won a minority share of the vote, and he appointed him chancellor because he thought he could control him. from 1933 until 1943, that's what happened to germany, because they had enablers and powerful people who said this person is a useful idiot. we'll take care of this. we might have to suffer through a few bad things but we're going to control this person. the same thing is happening and i'm actually surprised with bezos. i know bezos is a wealthy guy and he doesn't care about the average person. i know all that, but i though

that is his attempt, his of you rick wilson, cofounder of the lincoln project, and a former republican strategist. that does it for me. thank you for watching. inside with jen psaki begins now. >>> we are just nine days out. the one and only michelle obama has some things to get off her chest. and kamala harris is trying to make the choice as clear as you possibly can. there is so much talk about it, and lucky for us, my first guest today is kamala harris campaign chair. she's in charge of winning this thing, and she has a dummy cable news interview since harris became the nominee. also today, were going to show you my day a following door knockers in battleground michigan where we talk to voters about what's really on their minds. and later, the daily shows jordan klepper is here with his latest reporting from maga land. which, as always, you just have to see to believe. it's that time of year. the political ads are wall-to- wall on tv. the candidates on their trailer during their absolute best punches on the campaign trail. for donald trump, that means the hours on joe rogan's podcas

. >> yeah, i mean, it is exactly the way my friend rick wilson described it in his first book about trump people who do his bidding. and for me, it is really, really -- it is more than shawn freud. for the lawyers, it is particularly important that these men and women -- jenna ellis -- are being made examples of, because lawyers are not allowed to do these things. even in the course of election litigation. and the ability of the trump campaign to find people to do in 2024 what was done in 2020 is going to be limited by this. there is a nice group out called the 65, run by a friend of mine, and that group has brought up disciplinary complaints against any number of these lawyers who lied to courts, and a number of them have been disciplined, and now this group is taking out ads in various states saying, look, this is what happened to these people. don't be one of them. and i think it's -- you know, i think there is more here than just watching the decline of one sorry former mayor of the city of new york. >> i agree with that. in fact, there was a great op- ed in the new york times, last w

. >> let's bring in longtime political strategist and consultant, rick wilson. incoln project. >> rick, you know, if there are people out there that say, oh, wait a second now, wait, maybe we're being spun here, trump supporters, maybe we're being spun here, the fact is, just like kamala harris is saying listen to what donald trump says, here, let's just look at donald trump's policy from donald trump's administration. i mean, i'm looking through this. i have to say, i was shocked. i was shocked. i watched the nfl every week. my son and i watch it on youtube. we have the split four screen. this ad is nonstop. kamala said something in 2019 at some event. >> about what was available to trans prisoners. >> while she was saying it, donald trump's justice department was sending to congress gender-affirming care. the very things for inmates, convicts, the very things, rick, that they were attacking kamala harris for talking about. they were doing it. talk about that. >> joe, thanks for having me on, and mika. this is a classic example that trump really has contempt for

we had rick wilson with the lincoln project on.ff a lot of black men, hispanic men, white working class men in wisconsin and michigan and pennsylvania, and how they're not picking that up with their canvassing, how they're not picking that up in their numbers is beyond me. here's the lincoln project ad that actually sets the record straight. >> have you seen this ad? donald trump is spending millions attacking kamala harris on a desperate lie. taxpayer-funded sex changes for prisoners and illegal aliens is a trump administration policy. he is attacking kamala harris for his own record. and he thinks you're too dumb to get it. he's gaslighting america. because trump is for he/him. kamala is for us. >> that's something, if they had been running alongside of the 30,000 misleading ads that lie about kamala harris when it is actually a donald trump policy, pushed by donald trump's director of bureau of prisons, pushed by the justice department, spelling out the policy about gender-affirming care for inmates from the trump era, then, you

us, wilson, cofounder of the lincoln project and author of the book: running against the devil: a plot to save america from trump, and democrats from themselves. a very appropriately named book, rickwill start with that. we are seeing right now hours of speakers upon speakers using some very dangerous, some very ugly and divisive language. i have a running list of some of the things that have been said about immigrants, about black americans, about lgbtq americans, the language of mass deportations, attacks -- personal attacks on the vice president, threats, lies about this country, a very, very dark chapter that we are seeing unfold right now at madison square garden. >> you know, this afternoon, it started very quickly with a so- called comedian, calling puerto rico a floating island of garbage in the ocean. making the most repulsive racial jokes about latinos in this country, another speaker -- saying that kamala harris had him handlers. these people started low and kept digging. i think it is incumbent upon all of us to recognize what this is, the echoes of the nazi aren't just echoes anymore, it is not just history repeating itself, this is a tribute band. this is suffused wi