. >> ricky collins appeared confident until it comes to the subject of his incarceration. >> oh, yes,was in for five years. >> and where were you incarcerated? >> i was incarcerated in several joints throughout indiana, you know. >> the biggest problem is they tend to look down a lot. and i tell them, you know, whatever you did, whatever crime you committed, you've done your time for that. so i want you to lift your head up. you have nothing to be ashamed of because you've done your time and that's why we do this because it's very important that they know that. >> at isp, self-improvement is also available to those whose release dates are decades away. >> i tell my mother all the time, don't think of me as being in prison. i'm in here trying to better myself. she's really worried about me because i am a sex offender and it's really hard on sex offenders in prison, in this environment. i have a class "a" felony child molestation. we had sex one time, she came up pregnant and had a baby. when we found out she was pregnant, i turned myself in. i'm 35. i'll be 56 if i do the whole bit. i

. >> the thing about gwendolyn collins is she's facing a long prison sentence possibly for second-degree murder, and she has kids. >> this is kevin, and this is rickyves of my life. he's 12, and he's 11. >> the thought that she would not be able to be with the kids or even right then was able to take care of her kids was literally torturing her. >> how do you explain to your children, you know, your situation? how do you tell them, you know, that mommy's in jail, and i might go away for a while? i got a calendar to watch the days go by, to count the days. >> collins, a single mother, told us she used her escort service to support her family, after previous convictions for fraud and grand theft made it tough to find a more conventional job. >> they say eoe, equal opportunity. you know, there's no equal opportunity. they don't hire convicted felons. they don't hire murderers. they don't hire people like us, you know, and it's funny, because i was going for a position one time, and i took a microsoft entry-level test, and i scored a 98 because i'm very intelligent, and they would not give me a job because i was a convicted felon, and i told the lady,