do you think i mean maybe is too big a question but is this where music ridgen it comes from from nature did prehistoric man hear these sounds and sort of try and build menstruate to it imitate it is that the way you think it is of course i mean humanity evolved in the context of these musicians from other species who've been making music literally for millions of years wrong. you know this is the oldest most classical music you know and there must be something right about it as the birds do it for millions of years and do you believe you are communicating with the night and go well i believe that the nightingales are making music and i'm making music with them like trying to reach beyond what our species can do alone and make the kind of music that takes 2 species to create now nightingales the only music partners you have now let's have an example with whales this is extra i find this extraordinary the list your. airmen. 6 that was a really nice chance for a chance thing by the way david we've run out of the car but thank you very much for being with us and so once during this entire c