rifkin, i want to be sure that you spend your second life in prison also. >> today, rifkin is housedrisk and high profile in mates. he claims to feel more at home in prison than he ever did in the free world. >> it has nothing to do with celebrity because there are plenty of others in that facility as well. but because there are so many sexual offenders, nobody looks at him as if he is particularly deviant. >> how are you doing, what is going on here? >> programs like everybody else. right now i'm in the tailor shop. >> do you get hassled here at all? >> no, not really. can you sign this more me. can you draw something for me. that would be a greater in population. the believe that anything serial killer related is worth something. >> did you ever see any of the women that you killed as individuals? >> more so now, yeah. >> how? >> okay, brishiani i think was 22. so at 38, would she still be hitting the pipe or would she have family now? what are the odds of her taking a career life, a family life, getting out of the street thing she was in. >> right but does that matter to you? >> a

. >> our next speaker, among these distinguished counsels on the panel, is david rifkin. david is a member of the baker hostetler's international enveermt groups and co-firms pellettes and major motion team. extensive experience in constitutional administrative and international litigation from 1992 to 1993 he was associated executive director and general counsel to the president's counsel on competitiveness. while at the white house he was responsible for the review and analysis of legal issues related to the regulatory review conducted by the counsel. he's also served as associate general counsel at the united states department of energy from 1990 to 1991 and played a significant role in developing the reagan and bush administrations regulatory and legislative proposals affecting natural gas and electric utility industries. david, the floor is yours. >> thank you. thank you to peter, and thank you to you for putting this on and giving an opportunity to visit and see a few old friends. to dispel any lingering doubt, i'm with mort and i thank peter, i think they're uncons

. >> sir malcolm rifkin? >> consider speaking to the russian minister before mr. lavrov go to damascus tomorrow and remind him of the very serious damage russia is doing to its own long-term interests in the middle east. if he does speak to him point out to him that the statement that is put out by the opposition syrian national council today in which they accuse russia and china and i quote the words of being responsible for the escalating acts of killing and then went ton say that their use of the veto at the security council is, to use their words, tantamount to a license to kill with impunity. will not russia bear a very heavy responsibility if syria now descends into bloody and protracted civil war? >> i think this is true. i agree with my right honorable friend. that is i have used very strong language of mine over the weekend and in the statement today. that these vetos are a betrayal of the syrian people. to carry on in this way, they are turning their backs on the arab world. i think it will reduce their influence in the middle east. this is my belief tha

alan rifkin joins us. you've hated this space for aeons. deal change your mind about the investing prospects for staples? >> it doesn't change our mind but it's a small positive. >> what would change your mind, alan? >> what would change our mind would be a greater uplift in the macroeconomic environment, number one. number two, we'd like to see staples take a more aggressive posture in rationalizing, number one, the number of stores that they have, and number two, the average size of their box, both of which we think are greater than they need to be right now. >> of course, there's a large cost to that. this is herb. there's a large cost to that. the bigger issue, i think, is when you go into a staples, i'm still con vooiz fused what a staples is today. who they're competing with? they're competing all across the board. are they getting people in there to make up for that? it seems like a struggle. >> we would say they're competing with just about everyone. everyone has -- many retailers have targeted the office products space, ancillary p

rifkin, isn't it true that president bush made at least two recess appointments to mr. colin and mr. bartlett about cover nominating either of them to the senate at all, is that true? >> i am not sure, congressman. >> okay, let me say for the record that it is true and that mr. pincus -- i've got to move on, so you didn't give me the answer. mr. pincus, slide 10 shows -- somebody dare? thank you very much. that slide shows president bush's recess appointments made eight recess appointments to the nlrb during his presidency. now take a chamber of commerce object to mr. bush's recess appointments? pacino a? >> i don't know, congressman. some of them are made in the circumstances here. so you don't know what the chamber did? okay. the national labor relations board, mr. pincus insurers the union and nonunion workers alike. now slide six. thank you -- slide six shows the nlrb protects the right to bargain for wages, benefits and working conditions and the right to take action with coworkers to improve working conditions. now mr. pincus, you are here for business interests,