there was a huge rijeka on cnbc complaining about the stimulus package -- huge rent complaining about stimulus package. people reacted to it. host: you personally how did you get started with this? guest: we started treating about it -- tweeting about it. the next day we had a conference call. the next day we had a conference with 45,000 people in attendance. i was in atlanta, georgia. at that point my husband and i were coming out of bankruptcy. we had just lost our home and car, and we were cleaning house is to be able to make ends meet. host: mark meckler were relocated when you started? guest: i still live in a small town in north dakota. i was frustrated, probably like most people in america. when i heard of the rant, it really resonated with me. 150 people showed up on february 11, 2009. i saw people from a very broad cross spectrum that retired. host: when people hear about the two-party movement, are you the leaders? -- tea party movement, argue the leaders? e you tehhe leaders? guest: definitely not. there are thousands of leaders all across the country. host: in the book, je