rikki klieman is apparently back on the line. rikki, you have taken a further look at this indictment. what do you come up with? >> when i look back, john, at my prosecutorial days, what i wanted to know were, who are the victims? what did they suffer? and how did they suffer? well, the major victim here, of course, is democracy. the secondary, or perhaps in tandem victim, are the american people. the third victim are the american voters. all of those go together. but when we look at the individual paragraphs, what we have to remember, in addition to the people in congress who might have suffered serious bodily harm, injury, and even death, what we have to also look at is mike pence as a central victim in this indictment. and that mike pence became a person that donald trump, according to the indictment, wanted to do his bidding. and that was to change the election result, that mike was supposed to do the "right thing." but when he didn't, at the time that the capitol is being breached, that donald trump's tweet, when he goes and

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