thanks to both of you, david jolly and rina shah, we appreciate your time this morning. coming up ahead, i'm gonna talk about the future of american democracy, again, with two lawmakers who are in the middle of the fight at the state level. the oklahoma state representative ajay pittman and the california state assembly member alex lee. plus, former vice president pence has finally appeared before a grand jury in the january 6th investigation. i'm gonna talk to someone who knows pence better than most, his former senior adviser olivia troye. another hour of velshi begins right now. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ >> and good morning to you this saturday, april 29th. i am ali velshi. back in 2021, most of the country hadn't heard of so we zephyr, but as the montana legislation was in session that year, she was paying close attention to the bills that were introduced, and she was fervently tweeting about them. zephyr is a trans woman. she was enraged by something called s b to 80, a piece of legislation which would've made it difficult for transgender people to update their birth certificate. s