. >> it's friday afternoon in the rio grande valley in texas. >> abortion is one of the most common medical procedures for women around the world. >> two friends are reading a manual on how to give yourself an abortion. >> and then i asked you for sure like how pregnant you are. >> for sure right now, i'm seven weeks. >> that's good because once you get to 12 weeks, it's like riskier. >> they wouldn't let us film their faces because here, like in most states, what they are about to do could be considered illegal. >> and ultimately, it has to be your choice and make sure that you want it. >> i'm sure. >> to end her pregnancy, 23 year old mellisa is going to take a drug called misoprostol. it's normally used to treat ulcers. >> you have to put them under your tongue because it's more effective that way. >> identical to a miscarriage. >> yeah it does say on the box not to use while pregnant. by the time she's done, mellisa will have swallowed 12 pills. >> when should we do this? >> whenever you're ready really. >> okay. >> the rate of attempted self-induced abortions in texas is believed to be

. >>> developing story in rio grand, new jersey torque night a man walking along old rio grand of a made a terrible discovery this morning. he found two bodies. >> a man an woman lying in the woods. fox 29's shawnette wilson talked to some rattled neighbors tonight. >> nothing like that ever goes on around who are. >> reporter: neighbors along old rio grand avenue near south fifth street in middle township woke up this morning to an unusual and chaotic scene. >> police all over the place and then there was big truck from the prosecutor's office saying it was a crime scene. >> reporter: investigators say someone walking on a back trail in this wooded area in rio grand found the bodies of a man and woman both dead. >> i don't know what went on in their lives but it's sad. >> reporter: wednesday evening, the cape may county prosecutor's office was still working on identifying the bodies. carol lives across the street from the woods and says the day before the bodies were found she noticed something very bizarre. >> yesterday that was like hundreds of black birds flying around here. it was l

a city in the lower rio grande valley, on the southern most tip of texas. >> a few months ago mellisa could have come to this clinic for a legal abortion, but it's been practically shut down and isn't allowed to provide abortions anymore. >> last november a law went into effect that made it harder for doctors to perform abortions. under the new legislation doctors need an official affiliation with a hospital within 30 miles of their clinic. but in this conservative region, none of the hospitals are willing to do that. its just one of a number of laws that have swept texas and other states which have made abortion more difficult to obtain. the supreme court made abortion a constitutional right in 1973 in a landmark case called roe versus wade that actually began in texas. >> in the last two years there's been more restrictions passed against reproductive justice than there were in the 30 years prior to that. and we've really beared a lot of the brunt of that here in texas. >> even though they've won, anti abortion activists continue to protest in front of whole woman's health marching

. >>> right now we are at the rio grande river.'s approximately 100 yards because of the brush it's easy for a big group of aliens who wanted to cross over and once they get across, they are going to walk maybe several miles north of the river in order to get picked up and get smuggled into town. >> i think most people assume that once you get into the united states, whether you come in by car or you swim across the rio grande, you've made it. your feet are on the ground. what they don't know is the challenge between the border and maybe 25 to 30 to 40 miles is the second checkpoint. >> there aren't many roads leading from the border communities along the rio grande up to our metropolitan areas. the government has set up checkpoints where all traffic has to be stopped and reinspected. a double-check, if you will, a safeguard. if people wanting to get smuggled want to get beyond these checkpoints, they are going to either walk through the desert in blazing heat and brush or they are going to have to enlist the assistance of a coyote

i've been all the way trum the rio grande through texas and arizona. horse back.rain vehicles helicopters, boats. i've seen drug warehouses floor to ceiling. i've been there for arrests of criminals. tunnels dug. what do you think about his statement? >> i've been involved in border security since 1981 when i was in charge of immigration service in the reaganstration administration. they were one of my agencies i was in charge of. i've been on the border many times. >> those are guys i saw arrested. >> here's the reality, donald who i love and i really mean it. i think he's a great man. i think he's a wonderful father. and he's been terrific for america. just think he got it reversed. >> what do you mean? >> here's what i mean. most of the people coming over the border are coming over to work. they're working in california texas, they're working in new york. they're working in the restaurants and most of the places around here. they're coming over illegally, they shouldn't. when you allow that to happen you create a nice crowd in which drug dealers can come over r

behind him in the van 16 undocumented immigrants who had crossed the rio grand. some of the ground. >> yeah, some on the ground. most of them were on the floor. >> it was 2012, and momentum was building toward a wave of migrants that would flood across the southern border. a human smuggling ring has recruited junior, a quiet american 8th grader no criminal record, to drive the migrants deeper into the country. i just wanted to help them out. so. >> you just thought you could drive them and no one would realize what you were doing. >> the swerving van made it less than two miles before it was spotted an agent signals for him to stop, and the teen panics. flooring the gas. i just grabbed the wheel, and hung on. >> he lost control on this frontage road, the van rolled multiple times this was the after math. the nine people, they blew out of the van. >> those nine would die. the others were detained and junior escaped. >> did you look back to see what happened. >> not really. >> why not. >>ives scared. i was scared. i just ran. >> it didn't take long for police to fi

. >> it's friday afternoon in the rio grande valley in texas. >> abortion is one of the most common medical procedures for women around the world. >> two friends are reading a manual on how to give yourself an abortion. >> and then i asked you for sure like how pregnant you are. >> for sure right now, i'm seven weeks. >> that's good because once you get to 12 weeks, it's like riskier. >> they wouldn't let us film their faces because here, like in most states, what they are about to do could be considered illegal.

on our side of the rio grande, so all of the livestock that survives by drinking out of the rio grande will die? i'm tired of talking about a wall, it's not practical, it's not happening. >> it doesn't look good on all fronts. >> this union has had an interesting history with regard to working closely with anti-immigrant groups. so this is actually a very odd situation, i was very surprised that they backed off. i think rick perry's in a very interesting position he has probably grand standed on the border issues more than anyone. for him to be calling out donald trump is really odd. and let's remember, it was rick perry who kind of started this lie around the border in texas, when he sent national guard troops to the border to address a surge of children who are fleeing violence from places like honduras. and he sent the troops there, they showed up months late, the problem had largely subsided he got his press conference. he's been working very hard to push this lie. donald trump has usurped it, and now he's upset. >> heidi why do you think the union pulled out. why did they reverse

. >>> we have new details about the discovery of two bodies in the rio grande section of cape may county. they were found at a homeless camp and believed to be in their 50s, no signs of foul play and autopsies will be performed to determine the cause of death. >>> a robber is in custody after holding up a bank in montgomery county chased then by a county employee that happened to be inside. walter perez is live with more on that. >> the identity of the alleged bank thief is released he is 30-year-old kevin way, and the person that performed an armed citizens arrest is a local pat hatboro councilman, a man identified as kevin way entered the td bank in hatboro and gave the tiller a note. in the note it indicated that if he wasn't delivered money he was going to start shooting. >> the suspect had just left the bank with a bag of money and a dye pack exploded. something that was witnessed by councilman george forging who was standing nearby. >> forging chased the defendant a quarter mile requesting toer him to get on the ground. >> and he did this while in possession of a fully licensed fir

bodies found in cape may yesterday morning, the man and woman were found at a homeless camp in the rio grande section of middle township. police say the two were in their 50s and there's no sign of foul play. >> obama administration is drafting regulations that would require railroads to install video cameras to watch the actions of engineers. the engineer has no memory of events prior to crash. the federal railroad administration said other steps aimed at reducing human error are in the works. >> 5:07. we've been celebrating almost friday. >> baby friday. >> reporter: i like that. good name for thursday, it's sweaty baby friday. we have instability in the atmosphere and showers around. we have a decent line of steadier rain that is pushing through coatsville through the other side of it. areas to the north of oxford, chester county picking up some of this and farther up the pike north of norristown, the northeast extension of the turnpike is picking up lighter rain every now and then a heavier patch. the lehigh valley picking up lighter stuff and more gathering west of i-95 in maryland north

land international bridges design to stimulate commercial activity, economic growth and in the rio grande vally. her intimate knowledge of the transportation policy was a key element in the process culminating in the approval of presidential permits that paved the way to open the donna rio bravo and saduas international bridges. similarly she was instrumental in securing $300 million in federal investments for flood relief levee improvements along the texas and mexican borders. we still remember the impact of hurricane dolly in 2008 that brought between a foot and 15 inches of rain to the valley. hurricane ike followed shortly thereafter with storm surges as high as 20 feet and cost almost $20 billion in -- caused almost $20 billion in damages. my district would have been more highly susceptible to damage and our residents even more imperiled if the levees were breached by a hurricane or heavy rains without her assistance. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman's time has expired. mr. hinojosa: property was spared during the landful in 2010 when the rio grande river crested to a record of

pedro: el punto de control de la patrulla fronteriza en texas ubicado a 70 millas de rio grande.os para detectar conductores que pueden traer seres humanos con narcÓticos. >> estas la celda mÁs grande, aquÍ ponemos todos los adultos hombres. pedro: este es el sitio para los hombres? >>> correcto. pedro: tres agentes estÁn encargados y verifican documentos desde pasajeros y un acompaÑado de un perro realiza el equipaje. dice que si de la muerte sean Éstos han _ y arrestos han disminuido en esta zona, hay. >> 460que han recogido manos... _ malos. pedro: la mÁxima autoridad policiaca es Él. donde lo que va del aÑo fiscal se ha detenido a mÁs de 12.000 indocumentados. >> la gente llora cuando son detenidos. y tenemos que hacer un trabajo por supuesto. pedro: estÁn asignados mÁs de 300 agentes que hacen patrullajes. pedro rojas una ediciÓn. marÍa elena: la situaciÓn en la frontera entre colombia y venezuela se sigue deteriorando. cerraron el paso del puente simÓn bolÍvar por difusos disturbios entre comerciantes que dejaron un colombiano muerto. se dedicaba al transporte de vÍveres ha

middletown ship police say two bodies were found in the old rio grande avenue. investigators have not released the names of the man and women. they say this is an investigation in the early stages which mean they have few details to report travelers and traders were all affect this morning. we will start first with the hold up on wall street. an outage on the new york stock exchange led to a three hour shut down there. marley hall has more now on the trade troubles. >> reporter: traders made up for lost time late wednesday buying and selling, were the closing bell. a computer glitch, stopped all trading for several hours, in the in middle of the day. something that not often is seen on the floor. >> it has happened before, the flash crash of a few years ago, but it has never lasted this long. >> reporter: the exchange updated its software last night and solved a connectivity issue right before the open but the system crash midday, repairs were made on a stock by stock basis. >> they decided to protect people and shut the market down. >> reporter: only about 20 p

the man and women found in a homeless camp in the rio grande section. in their 50s, no sign of fall play. >>> a former u.s. army major and his wife convicted of abusing their adapted children. prosecutors say john and carolyn jackson broke the children's bones, withheld water and force federal them hot sauce. the abuse took place between 2005 and 2010 when the family lived in an army insulation in new jersey. the couple no longer from custody of adopted or biological children and will be sentenced in october. >>> in northeast philadelphia more than a dozen cats were rescued from an unsafe home earlier today. "action news" was there as they were examined by medical personnel. acts on a tip, workers with the spca executed a search warrant and 10 adult cats and kittens living in those filtly conditions. could result in charges filed. >>> and nothing compared to the storms heading our way tomorrow. and cecily tynan joins us from the big board with the latest from accuweather tonight. >> jim -- or rick sorry about that. i am so used to working with jim. nice

as a matter of fact, i am looking at the rio grand as we speak. i'm right at the border between the united states and mexico. and it's very close to laredo. you know, wanted to come here because of the optics and laredo is a city of 250,000 people, 90 plus percent latino, most of them mexican-american. and a city with strong ties to mexico. and not just you know, because for generations families have been, you know, crossing the border to be with each other. some live in mexico, some live in the united states. enormous amount of trade, commerce between this area where two countries are you know separated by a relatively small river here. and so you know he was coming here for that. and he is coming here for that. i got to tell you. there are national media from all over the country coming to this small city of 250,000. so it's for the optics and the fact that the union and local union invited them and then disinvited. i think that i would be safe in guessing that that's not going to take away from any of the strength of his comments and what he wa

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marta: con chalecos antibalas y armados para la guerra recorren agentes de la patrulla el rÍo grandes porque criminales los enfrentan a balazos. y otras porque hallan cadÁveres flotando en el rÍo. tambiÉn han salvado centenares de niÑos abandonados a su suerte en su marcha hacia el norte. desde el rÍo se ven residencias y mansiones usadas como lugares de descanso por propietarios y contrucciones que muchas veces son testigos de batallas. >> sÍ, tienes que tener cuidado porque nunca sabes quien estÁ vigilando aquÍ en el otro lado escondido en el monte. allÍ y cuando sea necesario no tiene ningÚn miedo de disparar o de tirar piedras, o kocher cosa para, para saltar. marta: se encuentran aquÍ en un parque que llegan a disfrutar un fin de semana sin imaginar lo que puede suceder a su alrededor. >> a veces puede ser que la gente estÉ involucrado en una actividad o puede ser que son inocentes que viven aquÍ. pero siempre tienen miedo de hacer cualquier cosa en contra de los cuarteles. marta: la tercera parte de las drogas ilegales que se consume en estados unidos entra por aquÍ. >> ahÍ est

there aren't many roads leading from the borderarrder communiti along the rio grande to the metropolitan checkpoints where traffic has to be inspected. a double check, the if you will. a safe guard. if people being smuggled want to get anywhere beyond any of the checkpoints they're going to need either to walk through the desert in blazing heat or enlist the assistance of people smugglers, a coyote, to get them through the checkpoint or get through on oh the train. >> so 37 desperate people docho the train. they were taken to the rail yard under the cover of darkness. >> the people were loaded into two different railroad railroad cars. 26 in one. when capacity was reached there, 111 in another nearby car. >> they were fed the line that it's not going to be that long. you don't need water because you will be let out in an hour or so, which was a lie. >> that might the train was stopped and searched by border patrol. >> the coyotes have are spotters that drive parallel to the train in cars. when the border patrol inspected this train they bailed out. they uncovered the group of 26 but the

. >> as you know, i was down at the border a dozen times everything from the rio grande to san diego where there was a tunnel that had been built. i was in the tunnel. when i sat through a briefing last year with governor perry, the one that president obama should have been at, i was told that since 2008, 645,000 crimes against texans alone, since 2008. why are people so resistant to acknowledge what is a simple, you know, unadulterated truth that crimes are happening because our border is not secure? why do you think there's so much difficulty and controversy in just stating that fact? >> first of all, governor perry did a terrible job when he was governor of texas, he could have done a lot better in terms of securing the border. he did a terrible job. whether he likes it or doesn't like it, i personally don't care. that job he did in terms of border secure was absolutely terrible. and what i've heard from a lot of people, you know, mr. shore has this incredible son who was killed by an illegal that came in, this unbelievable young guy that was going to go the college on a scopholar

instead of touring the rio grande with the border patrol, trump went to the world trade bridge where some 5,000 trucks cross into and out of the united states each and every day. a lot of trucks coming into this country. but not a whole bunch going into mexico with u.s. goods. that's why trump today declared mexico is booming, and why he wore a hat saying make america great again. we're coming right back. stay with us. much, much more including more about donald trump. where does he stand on the obama iranian nuclear deal. what's he doing with the chain saw? republican presidential candidate senator rand paul with us next, stay with us. >>> what happens when a limousine full of teenagers ♪ if you can't stand the heat, get off the test track. get the mercedes-benz you've been burning for at the summer event, going on now at your authorized mercedes-benz dealer. hurry, before this opportunity cools off. share your summer moments in your mercedes-benz with us. ♪ ♪ (ee-e-e-oh-mum-oh-weh) (hush my darling...) (don't fear my darling...) (the lion sleeps tonight.) (hush my darling...) man s

. >> there aren't very many roads leading from the border communities along the rio grande, up to ours. they set up checkpoints where all traffic has to be stopped and inspected, a double-check, if you will, a safeguard. if the people who are being smuggled want to get anywhere beyond any of these checkpoints, they're going to need either to walk through the desert in blazing heat or they're going to have to enlist the assistance of one of the people smugglers, that is a coyote to get them through the checkpoint somehow or to get them through on the train or find some other way to get through. >> so 37 desperate people chose the train. they were taken to the railyard under the cover of darkness. >> the people were loaded into two different railroad cars, 26 as it turns out in one, and when the capacity was reached there, 11 into another nearby car. >> they were fed the line it is not going to be that long, you don't even need any water because you'll be let out in maybe an hour or so, which was a lie. >> that night, the train was stopped, and searched by border patrol. >> the coyotes

mil personas, 60 mil de esas personas eran niÑos que estaban viajando solos cruzando el valle del rÍo grande sabemos que esas ciudades que estÁn en la frontera han tenido una de las tasas de criminalidad mÁs bajas del paÍs. sabemos que tenemos mÁs gente, mÁs tecnologÍa, mÁs recursos del gobierno federal a lo largo de nuestra frontera sur que lo que hemos tenido nunca. >> quiero preguntarle de la patrulla fronteriza, border patrol. el sitio polÍtico reportÓ que la patrulla fronteriza se ha convertido en una de las agencias policiales mÁs letales de la naciÓn, involucrada en por lo menos 46 tiroteos mortales desde el 2004. ¿cÓmo explica este aparente abuso de poder? >> bueno, yo no lo calificarÍa como abuso de poder por el uso de fuerza excesiva. tenemos estudios independientes, investigaciones que yo he dado a conocer pÚblicamente, y me he asegurado que estÉn a disposiciÓn del pÚblico. hemos puesto en prÁctica una serie de nuevos protocolos con asuntos internos, con investigaciones. hemos realizado nuestras propias pesquisas. recuerda, con frecuencia estas son cosas hechas por otras entidades

. >> it's friday afternoon in the rio grande valley in texas. >> abortion is one of the most common medicalcedures for women around the world. >> two friends are reading a manual on how to give yourself an abortion. >> and then i asked you for sure like how pregnant you are. >> for sure right now, i'm seven weeks. >> that's good because once you get to 12 weeks, it's like riskier. >> they wouldn't let us film their faces because here, like in most states, what they are about to do could be considered illegal.

instead of touring the rio grande with the border patrol, trump went to the world trade bridge where some 5,000 trucks cross into and out of the united states each and every day. a lot of trucks coming into this country. but not a whole bunch going into mexico with u.s. goods. that's why trump today declared mexico is booming, and why he wore a hat saying make america great again. we're coming right back. stay with us. much, much more including more about donald trump. where does he stand on the obama iranian nuclear deal. what's he doing with the chain saw? republican presidential candidate senator rand paul with us next, stay with us. >>> what happens when a limousine full of teenagers gets stuck on a train track? you'll see, here next. new york state is reinventing how we do business by leading the way on tax cuts. we cut the rates on personal income taxes. we enacted the lowest corporate tax rate since 1968. we eliminated the income tax on manufacturers altogether. with startup-ny, qualified businesses that start, expand or relocate to new york state pay no taxes for 10 years. al

this count is like many that got the texas guide to the rio grand, it is a haven for organized crime, where the promise of $500 turned rodriguez age 15, into a human smuggler. like some on the ground. >> yeah, some on the ground. most of them on the floor. >> on a dark night, two months before middle school graduation, junior picked up 16 undocumented immigrants from a stash house a human smuggling ring has recruited the quiet 8th grader to drive them deeper into the country and despite having no experience junior has said yes to the $500. i just wanted to help them out, so they could get to the city. >> so you thought you could just drive them, no one would realize what you were doing. >> yeah. >> the swerving van made it less than two miles before it was spotted by border patrol an agent signaled for him to stop, and hen paicked flooring the gas. he lost control rolling the van and killing nine passengers. he escaped uninjured. >> did you look back. >> not really. >> why not. >> i was scared. i was scared. i just ran. two days later he was arrested. he is now serving 20 years the de

i spent all of last year going back and forth to the rio grande valley when we saw this surge of youthe border and families. i had the opportunity to interview a lot of these young people that were crossing. some of them were gang member affiliated. some of them said they traveled with a lot of gang members. look these gangs learn how to operate around our system. in fact one of the most interesting things that i discovered is that gangs in the region are telling their members look, don't tattoo yourself. don't put identifiers on yourself. don't put monikers, don't talk about us. get into the country tremendous, do our deeds and then get back here any time you can. so this is how they they are operating. >> mr. valdez if kate's law is passed, then the authorities could arrest anyone they believe is a convicted felon in the country. that's an undocumented alien. wouldn't that be a tremendous tool for law enforcement to have? >> i think it would be a tremendous tool. i think it would give local police and the federal law enforcement agencies a tool to take people off the streets. i'm a f

he held a news conference near the world trade bridge that crosses the rio grande. in it he talked about crime and the love of the people there were showing him. >> are you saying there is a danger. if i'm on the border what danger are you talking about? >> there's great dank wert i will danger with the illegals. >> you have seen any evidence to confirm your fears about mexico sending their criminals across the border? >> yes, and i heard it from a lot of people. >> what evidence specifically have you been seeing? >> we'll show you the evidence. >> when? >> we just landed. there were a lot of people at the airport and they were all in favor of trump and what i'm doing. virtually everyone that we saw, there was such a great warm -- i was actually surprised. the reason i won with hispanic vote and win all over with the hispanic vote they know i'll take jobs back from china. i'll take jobs back from japan and every other country that's killing us. i'll bring the jobs back. you know the hispanics will get the jobs. they're going to love trump. they already do. >> mr. tr

i looked up texas, right in the rio grande valley. i've been there a million times. great place.s right in the tip of the speer. it's on the border with mexico. the crime rate there is lower, significantly, than the crime rate in colorado. if all the people are coming over and they are criminals -- i'm sure they have undocumented residents. the crime rate is significantly lower than colorado. mr. trump doesn't want to say that. he is right wing political correct. >> congressman, what's your response? you would expect the first place you would see if there were true would be along the border. >> why? what makes you think they stay at the border? what a ridiculous concept. they come aacross. they don't hang out. they come across the border and come into every single state in the nation. as the gentleman said the fellow they arrested in san francisco, he came here he was looking for a job. they are mostly looking for jobs. you know he is a different face of illegal immigration. he is not the one that the media so likes to present, the valedictorian, the person who has been -- was bo

. >> the mama bear, who came to be affectionately known as sparky, spends five months at the rio grande under the care of a team of veterinarians. she gains 75 pounds. and after reuniting with her cub, she's returned to the wild. >> people did get attached to this bear. it became albuquerque's bear. mama bear coming and looking for her cub, this traumatic incident occurs, yet they are reunited and able to be turned loose. i think it is a story of hope, you know. >> many wildlife officials rely on airbags to cushion the fall of bears they have to sedate, a development they owe, in some part, to sparky the bear. >>> december 6th, 2010. in tucson, arizona, another animal is stuck high on an electrical pole. this time, a cat who's been up there for three days. >> i just thought the cat might either slip and fall off or get into the power lines and get shocked and die. >> but kim, the cat, surprises everyone. >> on a monday, cameraman andrew brown heads out to cover the story. all day, phone lines had been buzzing in the newsroom. >> people were so upset about this cat being on this pole and

but if you build a wall, people bring -- they literally bring ladders across the rio grande. they float with a ladder across the leo grand, they throw it up over the wall and they climb. there's no way to seal the border of the united states, and that's never going to happen. in some sense, this is just a rehashing of an argument we have over and over again because the border stands in for a lot of problems that people are upset about, whether it's the economy whether it's the demographic change in america. and you know, yes, always there's some fringe that's going to take it too far. but i don't think donald trump is necessarily going to be the impetus for that. >> there are other people running for president besides donald trump. and he has -- i guess in a sense forced this debate which you could say is a good thing. i recently sat down with lindsey graham. i asked him about donald trump and what he thought about the comments on immigration. here was lindsey graham's response. >> nobody can control him, but you can control yourself. you're responsible for what you say. so i