that's how we work out. >> rishi sunak. >> rishi sunak. >> you called him out. >> you called him out.e. 50 any of this we shouldn't be arming ukraine is an absolute nonsense. >> well, what about i'm not sure. it is an absolute nonsense, but what about a coalition of the willing? so this will be people who say, okay, well, we're prepared to okay, well, we�*re prepared to join. won't that simply weaken? nato. >> yeah, this is what i was worried a little bit about. i'm not sure that this happened, but what i was, i was kind of worried that he might, you know, even if he didn't do it directly, kind of indirectly undermine trump in these in with this meeting because obviously we have got european leaders coming together without trump. and like you said, without putin. and we�*re kind of doing this without without them. so and i am a little bit concerned that that because i think we all know trump, he wants to be part of it. i think he wants to he wants his nobel, nobel peace prize. there's absolutely nothing wrong with that as a goalin nothing wrong with that as a goal in life. i have no p

so you have konstantin kisin claiming that rishi sunak and i are not english. >> rishi sunak is an englishndian like me. i'm proud to be british indian, but i'm also blessed to be born indian. are you really suggesting. >> wait, wait. well, let me finish on this one, please. >> okay, let's get jonathan. jonathan, have have another 30s or so. then we'll go back to emon. >> let me be clear on this. you are free to identify as you wish. if you want to identify as a british indian. non—english indian, that's your privilege. but rishi sunak has made very clear that he identifies as an engush clear that he identifies as an english indian. i am very clear that i identify as an english jew. now, konstantin kissin claims that neither. >> why are we talking about konstantin kissin? no, no, no. why are we talking about konstantin kissin? no. >> you asked about a national identity and culture. and if you. >> i say. but you're denying that there's any problem at all. do you think it's a problem? that we have fgm in this country? do you think it's a problem that we have forced marriage in this country?

but anyway, rishi sunak now says he was wrong to have used that slogan because it was too clear cut. so we live in some kind of clown world, ladies and gents. or what.7 and speaking of borders, jd vance will be giving a press conference about theirs. i'll be bringing you that live and asking you, do you think we could learn a thing or two from the mega administration on border control? and in this country, 1 million people do not speak english well at all. is that okay? and in the budget? that's not a budget. in a couple of weeks, it looks likely that we might have to see cuts to welfare. do you think that's the right approach or not? we've got all of that and lots more. and i'll be crossing as well to show you a protest taking place as we speak against, you guessed it, donald trump keeping me company. my donald trump keeping me company. my panel this evening, tom pursglove, the former conservative home office , conservative home office, ministry of justice and dwp minister, and alongside him, zoe grunwald, the journalist and broadcaster. but before we get stuck in, let's cross live

. >> rachel reeves says all opfions >> rachel reeves says all options are on the table after rishi sunaks to be seized to support ukraine. >> the former. >> the former. >> prime minister told mps that europe must find more resources to help kyiv, after the us paused its own funding. the chancellor says using those assets is, though, incredibly complicated under international law, but insists russia should pay for the damage it has caused. and in other news this afternoon, the trial of triple killer karl clifford has heard he raped his ex—girlfriend in a violent sexual act of spite. >> before murdering. >> before murdering. >> her and her family with a crossbow and knife. the 26 year old admitted killing louise hunt, her mother carol and sister hannah at their home last july, but denies rape. prosecutors say he carefully planned the attacks after miss hunt ended their relationship. he bought weapons and deceived his way into the property, jurors were told louise described the relationship as sucking the life out of her before breaking up with karl weeks earlier. the trial continues. and f